ms. christofor--a flores and ms. lopez may have testified extremely briefly. generally speaking, i do not think there was any testimony. on the merits during these proceedings in the criminal action. commissioner renne: thank you. commissioner hur: other views of the commissioners on this issue? chairperson hur: perhaps we shiould -- should invite the parties to address this. we welcome other side -- either side to come up first. >> thank you, chairman. from our standpoint, we do not want to have so many witnesses and by stipulation, we may be able to eliminate a few of them on background matters and we have been working toward doing that. our other proposal would be to speed along the proceedings by proceeding by declaration. rather than having a ruling from the commission that we do not want to hear from this witness, perhaps what we would like to see it would be that witness simply testified by declaration and there be an opportunity to cross-examine but perhaps a time limit on cross-examination so we could move things along and stay focused. there was one

ms. christofor--a flores and ms. lopez may have testified extremely briefly. generally speaking, i do not think there was any testimony. on the merits during these proceedings in the criminal action. commissioner renne: thank you. commissioner hur: other views of the commissioners on this issue? chairperson hur: perhaps we shiould -- should invite the parties to address this. we welcome other side -- either side to come up first. >> thank you, chairman. from our standpoint, we do not want to have so many witnesses and by stipulation, we may be able to eliminate a few of