ms. chu: mr. shapiro, you ignore several concerns about privacy -- acknowledge several concerns about privacy. how do we rely on the industry to self govern and avoid the problems implicit in the fox guarding of the henhouse? i asked the question particularly in the context of one concern you raised, which is who owns the data from these devices? isn't the industry incentivized to claim ownership over the data? >> it is true that a lot is going on vertically. we have our own wireless had company group focusing on creating rules everyone can live by, in part because it's the right thing to do and in part because congress -- there are already free market solutions which are happening quick he. -- quickly. in the automobile, hundreds of thousands if not millions of consumers are already choosing to give up their data to insurance companies in exchange for a lower insurance rates. the insurance companies are monitoring how fast they drive because the consumers feel it is valuable to give up that infor

ms. chu: mr. garfield, you stated that connectivity and communications between vehicles must be secure and reliable, especially for safety applications. that's something that congress, the department of transportation, the federal trade commission and other stakeholders should oversee to protect consumers. you are referring to the consumer's physical safety. but when it comes to another kind of safety like privacy and data security, you urge the federal government to essentially take a wait-and-see approach and asking that we should only step in if the industry fails at self-governance. so what, in your mind, is the difference between these two kinds of safety that would warrant such a divergent approach? mr. garfield: i guess twoour suggestion is not that the points. government do nothing. our suggestion is the government exercise restraint in that the approach that has been taken today on privacy hat is secretary torially driven, that is monitoring and enforcement by the f.t.c., is working. in t

. >> the gentleman from california, ms. chu. ms. chu: ms. pacheco, i am so interested by your program. can you talk about santa fe and what role the community involvement plays in that program, as well as the cost by implementing the program? ms. pacheco: initially santa fe had a series of meetings by community members for nine months. we had a needs assessment and everyone was involved -- private business, law enforcement, mental health workers. we were able to put together the lead program. it's consists of a consortium of individuals. santa fe police department, santa fe council, the public defender's office. all of us get together. we have combined resources. we have public and private funding. what i would like to say is that it is really wonderful to see how the police officers have responded to this. the police officers on the streets of the ones who originally came to us and said, we need to do something. we are sick and tired of arresting the same people. we have nothing we can give them. and for us, it has been very gratifying to s

ms. chu: thank you. mr. riley, there have been many cases where those who suffer chronic pain face challenges to pain medication. i understand that drugstores have been tightening the rules that the dea has imposed based on allegations that they were not scrutinizing questionable prescriptions. i believe a careful balance has to be struck between attacking prescription drug abuse while not preventing legitimate patients from accessing pain medication. that's why the cosponsor of hr 471, the insuring patient access and drug enforcement asked, which passed the house in april. mr. riley, what steps is the dea doing to ensure that patients are getting legitimate prescriptions for drug abuse? and how do you respond to comments that the dea's actions to stop prescription drug abuse are increasing problems in the heroin abuse problem? mr. riley: i too share the concern on this. we are so concerned about patient access at every step. we want to ensure that legitimate health care providers have access to adequate med

ms. chuitially santa fe had a series of meetings by all community members for about nine months. we did a needs assessment the human was involved private, business, law enforcement, mental health workers, and were able to put together the l.e.a.d. program. the l.e.a.d. program consists of consortium of individual. santa fe county, city of santa fe, santa fe police department and the district attorney's office and the public defender's office. and all of us get together and we have combined resources, manpower. we have public funding, private funding, and we get together and, well, guess what it really would like to say is it's really wonderful to see how the police officers have responded to this. the police officers on the streets are the one who covered the came to us and said we need to do something. we are sick and tired of arresting the same people. we have nothing we can give them. for us it's been very gratifying to see the response by the police department. the other thing that's been