. >> ms. clark, recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman.'d like to pick up on the point just raised by my colleague with respect to the emissions testing. new york state is one of those states that requires emissions testing. and typically if your vehicle fails an emissions test, you can be fined. so we know that because of the defeat device, most likely those vehicles would not be detected. >> correct. >> however, that doesn't change the fact that under normal circumstances, these vehicles would not be permitted on the road. so to have your agency say, well, because it's not your fault you can continue to drive, doesn't it sort of undermine the state's requirement for certain emissions levels to be contained for you to then undermine that with the ability for people -- notwithstanding the fact that it's not there. for most people when their vehicle has an emission problem, don't recognize it and don't typically think it's their fault either, however we have to remedy it before we can take our vehicles on the road otherwise we're fined. we

excess back.ield >> ms. clark. >> thank you mr. chairman. pick up on the floor colleague withmy respect to the emissions testing. new york state is one of those states that requires emissions testing. typically f you're a -- typically, you can be fined. mostse of this device, likely those vehicles would not be detected. >> correct. >> however, that doesn't change the fact that the normal these vehicles would not be permitted on the road. your agency so to have them say that the cause it's not their fault you can continue to drive, doesn't it sort of undermine the state requirement? for certain emission levels to be contained, for you you to then undermine that with the ability, notwithstanding the fact that most people, when their vehicle has an emission problem don't recognize it, and don't typically think it's their fault either. however we have to remedy it before we take our vehicles on the road, otherwise we are fine. we need stickers and those stickers indicate whether our vehicles are in compliance. if we have these vehicles running a

ms. clarke just gave. when you get anti-tampering laws and fines them also whether it's the criminal penalty under the aspects among those lines we would appreciate as you get this information for us that's helpful for the committee. asking them as consent for the contents of the document to be introduced into the record and authorize staff to make appropriate redaction so without objection did documents will be appropriate redaction's as appropriate. i want to thank the witnesses for coming today. we appreciate your time and attention in this difficult matter that it's important to us and thank you for your testimony and members the committee rules provide the members have 10 days submit additional questions to the record from the witnesses and we hope we will respond to that. with that, this meeting is adjourned. more works with white house coverage with businessman donald trump a and the labels conference in washington d.c. and spoke for just under 45 minutes. [applause] ♪ c thank you dear friends. it's

. >> ms. clark. >> thank you mr. chairman. i like to pick up on the floor just raised by my colleague with respect to the emissions testing. new york state is one of those states that requires emissions testing. typically f you're a -- typically, you can be fined. because of this device most likely those vehicles would not be detected. >> correct. >> however, that doesn't change the fact that the normal circumstances, these vehicles would not be permitted on the road. to have your agency say, because it's not your fault, you can continue to drive. doesn't it sort of undermine the state requirement for certain emissions level to be contain. for you to undermine that with the ability -- for most people when their vehicle has emission problem, don't recognize it or don't think it's their fault either. we have to remedy it. otherwise we're fine. here we have the self-vehicles running around in certain jurisdictions that would fail that. how do you reconcile that? >> the fines are a matter of state law. the way to reconcile that is

i yield back. >> and i want to add on top of the questions ms. clark just gave, if you gather information with regard to state rules with regard to anti-tampering law, fines and also whether there are criminal penalty, we would pleer appreciate as you're gathering this information for us. i ask unanimous kept that the contents of the document be introduced in the record. without objection, the documents will be entered and any redactions that staff determines are appropriate. and i want to thank the witnesses for coming today. we appreciate your time and your attention to this difficult matter. but it's important to us. and thank you for the testimony. and to the members for their devotion to this hearing. members have ten days to submit additional questions to the l d record and we hope you will respond promptly. with that, this hearing is adjourned. >>> house energy and commerce subcommittee wrapping up a hearing with epa officials testifying with volkswagen's admission to installing software designed to cheat emissions tests in about 11 million dies

. >> i now recognize ms. clark of new york for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and i would like to think you, m -- to thank you, mr. horn, for giving us as much background and knowledge of what has taken place to the best of your ability. i've heard a couple of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle refer to what has occurred as cheating. but i would like to say to you that i believe it was an intentional deception. and i think we need to say it as it is. this wasn't a game. this was an intentional deception to bring something on the market that did not meet standards. i want to go back to something my colleague just raised about your testing center at oxnard. i understand that for the better part of the past year, vw was interacting with c.a.r.b. about discrepancies about high emissions involving your vehicles. what is the purpose of the oxnard facility, and is it, as the article suggests, developed to hem volkswagen meet emissions standards? >> to my understanding, yes. and it's directly connected to the research and development department in germany to

speaker, i'm yield to the gentlewoman from massachusetts, ms. clark, two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized for two minutes. ms. clark: thank you, mr. speaker. ranking member scott. mr. speaker, here we go again. we are back here using valuable legislative time to make a doomed attempt to repeal the affordable care act. next week the highway bill will expire. the week after that we are facing the prospect of defaulting on our nation's debt. the next month we could shut down government because we don't have a long-term budget. and yet here we are again. repealing the affordable care act. defunding planned parenthood. because maybe the 65th time it will stick. i'd like to remind my colleagues that the affordable care act has insured over 17 million americans. and that planned parenthood provides care to 2.7 million patients a year. often in underserved areas of our country. my colleagues on the other side of the aisle seem determined to replay these issues. despite the fact that we have already voted on them. mr. speaker, we have a lot of

. >> i now recognize ms. clark of new york for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman.nd i would like to thank you, mr. horn, for giving us as much background and knowledge of what has taken place to the best of your ability. i've heard a couple of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle refer to what has occurred as cheating. but i would like to say to you that i believe it was an intentional deception. and i think we need to say it as it is. this wasn't a game. this was an intentional deception to bring something on the market that did not meet standards. i want to go back to something my colleague just raised about your testing center at oxnard. i understand that for the better part of the past year, vw was interacting with c.a.r.b. about discrepancies about high emissions involving your vehicles. what is the purpose of the oxnard facility, and is it, as the article suggests, developed to help volkswagen meet emissions standards? >> to my understanding, yes. and it's directly connected to the research and development department in germany to help them or to get