ms. clayton? >> no. >>no.. >> no. >> have you spoken with anyone who authored any of the documents about the information that the documents contain? >> not to my knowledge. >> no. >> not to my knowledge. >> not to my knowledge. >> maybe. i don't know. >> who have you spoken with then? do you have names? that is from majority staff? thank you. for the documents listed in the index that accompanied the packet, as coming from "a procurement business," have you spoken with about procurement business about the documents? is clayton? >> no. >> no. >> no. >> no. that is why there needs to be an investigation. >> excuse me, do you have any firsthand knowledge of how the procurement business in question created the document used in today's exhibit? >> no. >> absolutely not. >> no. >> no. >> for the documents that are listed as staff created, for example exhibits b4 and b5 did the public and staff, discussed those documents with you? -- the the republican staff discussed those documents with you? >> no. >> remind

ms. clayton: thank you, madam chair. i've been a corporate litigator since 1978, and i'm here today despite a family medical situation for two reasons. one is that women's reproductive health and medical research are being threatened by these hearings. the second reason is that i have instructive experice to share with this panel on the topic that you're considering here. 16 years ago, a client of mine, anatomical gift foundation, a nonprofit corporation that provided donated tissue to medical researchers in hopes of curing the diseases, including the ones senator shaheen mentioned earlier. that nonprofit was falsely accused by life dynamics, the anti-abortion group congressman schakowsky mentioned, accused of selling fetal tissue. these baseless charges were made in a videotape, sent by life dynamics to congress and in that video the person making the accusations was anonymous. as it happened, an employee of anatomical gift foundation, my client, had gone to work for another company, in violation of his contract. a.g.s.

ms. clayton has there been a lead investigation? >> i am not privy to that. >> is there a lead doj attorney? >> i am a civil litigator. i don't have access to that and i don't believe it is allowed to be shared with that. >> you are not aware of any lead attorney. does anyone on the panel know of a lead attorney at the department of justice leading an investigation? >> no. i have lerrheard nothing. >> i haven't either. >> starting with b2, i believe that this was a document that was received from a national abortion provider conference. it seems to indicate there could be profitability. does that concern anyone on the panel? >> i would agree with you. >> this is an issue of woman's health care. this is especially true of others. >> i would add as a woman i am deeply offended abortion clinics are allowing access to distress us and put our children on display like chicken livers are in grocery stores. it deeply offends me. >> ms. clayton, it is your testimony that b2 has been altered? >> i have no knowledge of the documents and if the

ms. clayton: thank you, madam chair. i've been a corporate litigator since 1978 and i'm here today despite a family medical situation for two reasons. one is that women's reproductive health and medical research are being threatened by these hearings. the second reason is that i have instructive experience to share with this panel on the topic that you're considering here. 16 years ago a client of mine, anatomical gift foundation, a nonprofit donation, that provided donated tissue to medical researchers in hopes of occurring the diseases including the ones senator shaheen mentioned earlier. that nonprofit was falsely accused by life dynamics, the anti-abortion group congressman schakowsky mentioned, accused of selling fetal tissue. these baseless charges were made in a videotape sent by life dynamics to congress and in that video the person making the accusations was anonymous. as it happened, an employee of anatomical gift foundation, my client, had gone to work for another company, in violation of his contract. a.g.s.

ms. clayton, with you, and work my way down to mr. sukhia. very quickly, what i would like to hear from you, what documents would you request or subpoena from these procurement organizations in order to find out? we have asked for banking records from the procurement business that has been the point of discussion today and they have refused to give us those. we thought that would help clear the way to figure out -- let's start there. we only got 2:45 left. ms. clayton: i would start with accepting the invitation from the procurement business. i would have them come in, put them under oath as i understand they've offered to do, and ask them, how did you come up with this charge? rep. blackburn: that would be an incorrect assumption. ms. clayton: the second thing i would do is ask them in each particular case what aspect of the actual cost does a particular clinic incur? for example, does the clinic provides space? does the clinic as we've seen in your charts provide the blood draws, which require a technician, nurse, materials? does the clinic

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