ms. coolidge who was was a beautiful, nice lady. coolidge lived under his shadow of roosevelroosevelt. obon his on -- on his honeymoon he went to canada and on the papers cause roosevelt this. as he grew up, as a politician governor and in washington, he wasn't roosevelt's kind of progressive at all and you can feel the tension. coolidge didn't believe in sliming your peers so you will not find a lot of it. >> host: charles in connecticut, go ahead. >> caller: i wanted to ask you about the person who edited the book review session of the tribune and was featured in a book called "the making of middlebrow culture" which was about the attempt to treat the general reader of someone of intelligence and had an interest expanding their horizon and someone like virginia west, someone you like, could garner an audience. would you stab middlebrow culture of the '30's with whatever we have today. >> guest: i think it would be called highbrow culture, wouldn't it? because we are less bookish than we used to be. she was the girlfriend of wilky. and he was married. it is sad, but true, can't change