ms. dewaal. first of all, do you think their current provisions of the buyer of terrorism act are sufficient to give us the mandatory recall that we need and a robust food safety system? >> know i do not. the bio terrorism act did not really give the mandatory recall but it does give them the authority to take certain actions like administrative detention and other actions when they meat. >> really has the one step back because is that as of this it -- sufficient i said mandatory recall i mentor feasibility. >> that is what happens when you break my train of thought. >> thank you for the clarification. the one step up and one step back trees ability was a good first up into this area. the provision into this bill is much improved what we have seen over the years is the fda has had trouble with identifying food products with major recalls an outbreak. >> it does not go far enough? correct you are nodding your head yes. >> there is such a huge food production chain if there is one. the records are

ms. dewaal that you believe access to records provision we'll help to protect public health? >> the access gives the agency the ability to look at plants. take a look at them as they operate over time. today when the fda inspector goes into the planned they see the four walls, they may not even get access to any records of that facility. they can look at production practices as they happen that day. but with access to records provision with this preventative control system and written food safety plan, the inspector will be able to go and look back where the company has faced challenges in its operation and how they address them. >> thank you does anybody else want to address it? that is fine. thank you. mr. deal? >> thank you. i guess i will start with you from the producers' side of it. in a general context do see any problem or potential of this legislation and creating overlap with the fda jurisdiction and requirements to do things versus courage usda requirements to do things in our food supply? >> we don't see any jurisdictional issues of public health. fda has the stat

ms. pamela bailey who is president and chief executive officer of the grocery manufacturers association, and then we have met miss caroline smith dewaal, who is the safe food coalition food safety director of the center for science in the public interest. dr. tim jones who was the state of pd -- epidemiologist from the tennessee department of health, and last is mr. thomas stenzel who is president and ceo of united fresh produce association. well, you know it is five minutes and obviously your staymans become part of the record if you -- if you want to include material more than a five minutes, and we all heard before, i know some of you wondered if you could meet the deadline, but since we do intend to go to market next week i agreed with what -- you brought it up -- mr. shimkus said it will give you any additional written timon and we like them back by monday at the end. so we will start with michael ambrosio. thank you for being here again. >> thank you, chairman pallone, members of the subcommittee come i'm honored to appear on behalf of the food marketing institute to present our views and suggestions on the food safety enhanceme