ms. donahue, what made you write this book, slave of allah, and why was it important to write it as an anthropologist was that process? >> curiously, i was the only academic to think of going to this trial. i have a friend from graduate school who had told me she had a connection to the trial. i learned quickly that anyone was able to go, any person could go to the trial as long as there's space for you in the courtroom, so i thought, okay, i think i need to go there and the trial actually was in alexandria, virginia, in the eastern district court. that site was chosen actually because the pentagon was in that district and they were trying to have the trial somewhere in the same area where one of the attacks had happened. and i got to be at the trial. i was actually the initial jury drawing and then at the two different phases of the trial so i got to know the members of the press. there were no other people who were there as academics attending the trial. i really acting good eyesight into what the -- insight into the way in which the press was writing about this person. >> and what role did the med