ms. duckworth, you're recognized. ms. duckworth: duck thank you, mr. chairman. i'd like to follow up on this see and avoid rules. mr. wynne, i think that your comparison to the military use is a little bit off mark because i was actually in charge of the state of illinois national guard's attempt to establish the rules for flying shadow u.a.v.'s state-side and we certainly had to comply with the keeping the aircraft inside at all time rules under the f.a.a., flying it over restricted air space only as well. so the military actually has to -- if we're going to be flying those u.a.v.'s, actually follow the u.a.v. in the air with another aircraft. i don't think that is something that the commercial entities are willing to do at this point. i could be wrong. i do want to talk about the safety issue and i think i'm going to direct most of my questions to mr. whitaker with the f.a.a. i was flying my aircraft over he eastern shore, in contact with air traffic control the entire time. and i had an aircraft, a model aircraft, bust through the air space 10 feet off the no