ms. dunlap: yes. susan: would you explain it? ms. nlap: in that time, there was still this attitude of spheres of influence where women were supposed to stay pure and take care of the home and children. that is exactly where he wanted frances to be. he did not want her pretty little head upset with notions about being first lady or the demands of being in the white house or the wife of a president. he did not think that women should vote or work outside the home. susan: this program, this series if you have been watching along the way, it is interactive. there are a lot of ways to do that. you can send us a question on facebook. there is already a chat going on for a little while about frances cleveland. you can also find our facebook page and be part of that. you can send us a tweet with the #firstladies. the good old fashion way, can make the phone call. here are the phone numbers. we will be working your questions in throughout our 90 minutes on frances cleveland. also something special for you an opportunity to go inside the smith

ms. dunlap here has a few books to come out very soon. 2016 charles g dodd. the other in 2017, i can't wait to get a hands-on, is -- i'm sorry, i have the right title today. she is working on -- a biography. [a woman among women." -- "a woman among women." >> her middle name, short for louise, was born on march 29 1874 in waterloo, iowa. her parents were charles and florence henry. and, yes, daddy wanted a boy. and so momma allowed her eldest daughter to be named lou. we all think that that is modern. in many ways lou was raised as a boy. she was touched or hunt, shoot, fish, and read a horse, but her mother also major she learned how to sew cook. the fact that she was brought up with those twin threats from both of her parents contributed to the quite unique woman that she did eventually become. when she was 11, her father took a banking job in california. they moved there in 1885. and lou pretty much consider there to be her home. she entered originally los angeles normal school. then when her family moved, she transferred to san jose college where she got

ms. dunlap here has a few books to come out very soon. 2016 charles g dodd. other in 2017, i can't wait to get a hands-on, is -- i'm sorry, i have the right title today. she is working on -- a biography. [a woman among women." -- "a woman among women." >> her middle name, short for louise, was born on march 29 1874 in waterloo, iowa. her parents were charles and florence henry. and, yes, daddy wanted a boy. and so momma allowed her eldest daughter to be named lou. we all think that that is modern. in many ways lou was raised as a boy. she was touched or hunt, shoot, fish, and read a horse, but her mother also major she learned how to sew cook. the fact that she was brought up with those twin threats from both of her parents contributed to the quite unique woman that she did eventually become. when she was 11, her father took a banking job in california. they moved there in 1885. and lou pretty much consider there to be her home. she entered originally los angeles normal school. then when her family moved, she transferred to san jose college where she got her

annette dunlap: well, i'm sorry to say i don't know anything about her relationship with ms. lindsay, but i can tell you that she did an excellent job of having friendships with some of the older washington wives. and some of that was helped by the fact that one of those older wives, flora whitney, pretty much took frances under her wing as soon as frances came to washington as a young bride. and that opened the doors. and frances respected them, and they respected her, and they had a great relationship. susan swain: sheldon cooper on twitter asks, "did future presidents or first ladies ever invite mrs. cleveland back to the white house?" annette dunlap: yes, the tafts actually the -- thomas preston and frances cleveland for an engagement party in january, right before they got married in february of 1913. susan swain: and the press took a good view of her remarriage? taylor stoermer: yeah, absolutely. there was only one criticism in which somebody was saying, well, she now has feet of clay. she really should have stayed unmarried, stayed a widow. taylor stoermer: but for the