>> ms. duvalcould have told the committee at that time. >> i testified at some length in the past and earlier today. >> here's the question. let me jump in. why nod in mid april when you knew? why not when you knew -- what date did you learn you could not get all of her e-mails? i learned that in april. why not april? >> as i testified then and on numerous occasions, my judgment was, a, we needed to find out what e-mails we did have. we needed to put it together in a full report, which we did -- >> why not anytime in april? one at the i.r.s. told someone at treasury, who then told someone at the white house, according to press reports. offense good enough to pass on to the treasury and white house, why not tell us sometime in april? >> because i thought that at that point we did not have the full information as to what was involved, how many e-mails. >> you learned in april they were unrecoverable. and you wait until june 13th. why june 13th. >> first of all, i would note all of those e-mails that