that in connection with staff, ms. ellis, the general manager, massoud, justine, working on the work force development policy that we've been discussing for a while. they're kind of all interconnected, right, the policy, land management plan, the contracts. and it's not to say that we don't know what will happen. we don't know whether one of our bottom lines will be to require apprenticeship or any labor standard. when you look at them, you see there are millions and millions going out from our agency. a lot of that work is the kind of work that's being targeted by the community work force, by a lot of the c.b.o.s and the nonprofits that we work with. and i don't think -- i don't think it's a mountain for us to climb to make a determination on our own about what our objectives are with respect to a labor standard or a minimum labor standard or, you know, resources and equipment and so on. my concern is that if we don't at least have a thoughtful conversation about that over the next few months, we'll piecemeal it out without

ms. gandy: thank you, ellie, for organizing this. the national network to end domestic violence is the national association of all 56 state coalitions against domestic violence to end the sexual assault coalitions with nearly 2000 local programs throughout the country. sexual assault is not a democratic issue, and it is not a republican issue. it is a human issue. and right now we are badly in need of some humanity. we have made progress in many ways with laws, protections, support, and resources for survivors. we have a long way to go in terms of attitudes and assumptions. think about the survivors who are watching this process unfold. they are thinking, how will i be treated if i come forward? our daughters are watching and wondering, is this what will happen to me if i am assaulted you and i tell someone? would it be any wonder if they didn't come forward? countless survivors and their families, their friends, their advocates are watching the senate to see what kind of tone they set, and so far it is not a good one. senators shoul

. >> when sheriff ellis walked up to the podium, he looked at teresa's mother reba and vowed he'd get justice yet. >> ms. reba, i won't quit until we find out what happened to ms. teresa. >> and in fact, even as he spoke, the sheriff along with the corporal will chasing down their first honest to god lead in what, over a year? didn't seem like much, not at first, just an overheard story from a guy in a bar, something about how he and a friend ran into someone with a gun, not so terribly uncommon, mind you, except that it happened around the same time and not very far away from where the murder occurred. so ellis and boyd tracked the kid down and he remighted the story for them. >> they were on a dirt road. and they came upon a snake, a rattlesnake. and they was trying to kill it, find something to kill it with. >> trouble was, they were plumb out of rattlesnake killing tools, and that's when a suv just happened to pull up on the dirt road behind them. the driver was a woman in her 40s or thereabouts who, said the young man, offered them a surefire way to dispatch that rattlesnake. >> lady in the car had