ms. swain: questioning him this week is erica werner of the associated press, the chief congressional reporter, and susan ferrechio comes back to our set, chief correspondent for the washington examiner. thanks for being here, both of you. >> great to be here. ms. werner: wonderful. mr. jordan, thank you. friday as you know is the budget deadline will be blowing through it. you will be missing the deadline for the first time in six years largely because of opposition from the freedom caucus. how do you justify and explain that, and does it matter? rep. jordan: the only thing worse than not doing the budget is spending more money. you have to look at this in the real world context of the debt just hit $19 trillion. cbo reported six weeks ago this year's shortfall, this year's annual deficit will be $105 billion higher than expected. within that context, we said look, maybe we should not spend $30 billion more. maybe we should actually at least hold the line on spending to start to deal with the fiscal mess we are in. after all, every single-family, every single government, every single school district, township, ci

ms. ferrechio ms. werner: another topic is the opioid legislation that has passed the senate and that speaker ryan want to act on in some form of the house. do you think that will happen? rep. jordan: yeah. one of the things you hear about traveling across central in and north-central ohio which is the fourth district, we hear from so many people. you hear from employers who have job openings and are trying to hire people by the potential applicants in a full use cannot pass the drug screening, and you hear from commonplace judges and prosecutors just how serious this problem is. i think the solution is largely going to be solved with families and communities and churches, but i applaud senator portman and the work he is doing in the senate and others that are doing in the house. i think bob dole on the house side and others to the extent that we can be helpful is good. it needs to be done anyway that in a way that does not increase spending, but -- the president has asked $2 billion for this. do you t

ms. swain: questioning him this week is erica werner of the associated press, the chief congressional reporter, and susan ferrechioes back to our set, chief correspondent for "the washington examiner." thanks for being here, both of you. >> great to be here. ms. werner: wonderful. mr. jordan, thank you. friday as you know is the budget deadline and you will be blowing through it. you will be missing the deadline for the first time in six years largely because of opposition from the freedom caucus. how do you justify and explain that, and does it matter? rep. jordan: the only thing worse than not doing the budget is spending more money. you have to look at this in the real world context of the debt just hit $19 trillion. cbo reported six weeks ago this year's shortfall, this year's annual deficit is going to be $105 billion higher than expected. within that context, we said look, maybe we should not spend $30 billion more. maybe we should actually at least hold the line on spending to start to deal with the fiscal mess we are in. after all, every single-family, every single government, every single school district,

ms. swain: questioning him this week is erica werner of the associated press, the chief congressional reporter, and susan ferrechio our set, chief correspondent for the washington examiner. thanks for being here, both of you. >> great to be here. ms. werner: wonderful. mr. jordan, thank you. friday as you know is the budget deadline will be blowing through it. you will be missing the deadline for the first time in six years largely because of opposition from the freedom caucus. how do you justify and explain that, and does it matter? rep.or

ms. swain: questioning him this week is erica werner of the associated press, the chief congressional reporter, and susan ferrechioes back to our set, chief correspondent for the washington examiner. thanks for being here, both of you. >> great to be here. wonderful. mr. jordan, thank you. friday as you know is the budget deadline will be blowing through it. you will be missing the deadline for the first time in six years largely because of opposition from the freedom caucus. how do you justify and explain that, and does it matter?