ms. frederickson would not answer the question. doctor, is that too brutal?

ms. frederickson? >> first i don't think late term is a technical term so i don't know how to respond to that but i don't know the number of abortions that take place every day. >> but you're an expert on this issue. >> i'm not here to talk about medical procedures. i'm here to talk about the law. >> okay. i was just lectured at the number of deaths, and i just wanted to know if the panel knew how many children who are being killed every single day that we -- do you know? >> i believe it's almost 4,000 a day, not by planned parenthood but by the abortion industry. >> do you know how many late term or over 20 weeks? do you know those numbers? >> no. >> this is not simply a question of the legality of planned parenthood's actions. we may never find the answers to that question, whether they're legal or not legal, but reducing human beings to commodities by selling fetal body parts for profit, i think everyone should agree is morally reprehensible. based on the testimony presented today it would also appe

ms. frederickson?>> first i don't think late term is a technical term so i don't know how to respond to that but i don't know the number of abortions that take place every day. >> but you're an expert on this issue. >> i'm not here to talk about medical procedures. i'm here to talk about the law. >> okay. i was just lectured at the number of deaths, and i just wanted to know if the panel knew how many children who are being killed every single day that we -- do you know? >> i believe it's almost 4,000 a day, not by planned parenthood but by the abortion industry. >> do you know how many late term or over 20 weeks? do you know those numbers? >> no. >> this is not simply a question of the legality of planned parenthood's actions. we may never find the answers to that question, whether they're legal or not legal, but reducing human beings to commodities by selling fetal body parts for profit, i think everyone should agree is morally reprehensible. based on the testimony presented today it would also appea

ms. caroline frederickson. ms. frederickson is president of the american constitution society. she has been widely published on a range of legal and constitutional issues and is a frequent guest on television and radio shows. before joining american constitution society, caroline served as the director of the aclu's washington legislative office and as general counsel and legal director of naral pro-choice america. our final witness is ms. luana stoltenburg who is public speaker for operation outcry a ministry that seeks to educate the public about the devastating consequences of abortion. she's a resident of davenport, iowa. welcome to you all. your written statements will be entered into the record in their entirety. and i ask that you each summarize your testimony in five minutes or less. to help you stay within that time, there's a timing light on your table. when the light switches from green to yellow, you have one minute to conclude your testimony. when the light turns red, it signals that your five minutes have expired. and, doctor, we'll begin with you. welcome. [ inau

ms. frederickson would not answer the question. dr. levantino s that too brutal? >> every abortion involves the destruction of human life. i get frustrated sometimes when i hear it's not a baby, it's a fetus. i think we've gotten beyond it's a whole blob of cells. you know what that is? that's your son. that's your daughter. every abortion involves a son or dart. i think it's absolutely gruesome. i thought the answer you gave just a minute ago is perfect. if i abused a dog in my town, i'd be arrested. if i did abortions again, first trimester, second trimester, i'd be a hero to so many people. it's absurd. >> mr. chairman, just for the record, the point that i think disturbs so many of us is the exact response we heard from miss frederickson. they won't say that any procedure is too far or not enough or is too brutal and that's the purpose of these hearings because there's a big difference between saying there may not be a law to protect against something, it may not be legal and to say there was no wrongdoing done because i think what we heard on that tame was wr