ms. frenkel: that is right.e show through this book and it was one of the most powerful parts of writing it. it was discovering that over again, this company was making a calculus that growth was the most important thing. engagement. people comin on as often as possible. that is what matters. that is the bottom line. we cannot forget this is a business that has to answer to its investors in the stock market. all of the decisions kind of stem from that attention of needing to put company over country. william: mark zuckerberg's founding idea was a free-speech utopian idea that in the presence of bad speech, more speech is the solution. but they quickly realized that lies and misinformation were percolating to the top, not countering those things. how did the company broadly react when they saw that was what was so popular on the site? ms. kang: they had taken efforts to try to cramp down -- clamp down on the spreadof disinformaation and harmful speech but after many years of prioritizing sech that tends to be --