ms. fulton to accept the system. to accept the verdict. if you see something that's not right, as it is unfolding, please let us know, okay? so we can deal with it before the verdict comes down,. >> that's fair, bill. i want to thank you and your show and a lot of people for telling everybody to stay calm. i think that's so important. and it's one of those things, is i -- sabrina said this shouldn't be a race issue. it should be about justice. >> bill: absolutely. we are all americans here. nobody wants a 17-year-old son shot down in the street and i'm sure on the zimmerman side nobody wants to see mr. zimmerman -- mr. zimmerman doesn't want to see his son's life ruined because of this. so, this is a tragedy all the way around and we have got to handle it with the utmost restraint. >> thank you, bill. >> bill: our condolences again, ms. fulton. thank you for coming. in you are always welcome on othe program. counselor, you are a stand-up guy, anything you have got come to me. >> certainly and we will let you know if anything comes. >> than

ms. fulton to accept the system. to accept the verdict.u see something that's not right, as it is unfolding, please let us know, okay? so we can deal with it before the verdict comes down,. >> that's fair, bill. i want to thank you and your show and a lot of people for telling everybody to stay calm. i think that's so important. and it's one of those things, is i -- sabrina said this shouldn't be a race issue. it should be about justice. >> bill: absolutely. we are all americans here. nobody wants a 17-year-old son shot down in the street and i'm sure on the zimmerman side nobody wants to see mr. zimmerman -- mr. zimmerman doesn't want to see his son's life ruined because of this. so, this is a tragedy all the way around and we have got to handle it with the utmost restraint. >> thank you, bill. >> bill: our condolences again, ms. fulton. thank you for coming. in you are always welcome on othe program. counselor, you are a stand-up guy, anything you have got come to me. >> certainly and we will let you know if anything comes. >> thank you.

ms. fulton, mr. parks, attorney jackson, didn't make one promise to us saying we will look at all of the evidence, every piece of the evidence, and based on the evidence that she would make a decision. not based on public pressure. not based on anything else. but the evidence. and we always believe d from da one that if you look at that evidence fairly and impartially that you would have to come to the conclusion that he had to be arrested and that this matter had to go before a judge and a jury. and that is all that tracy martin and sabrina fulton and their family have asked for. nothing more, nothing less. before i bring them up, i do go back, reverend sharpton, reverend bryant, to the call that has been well documented now when tracy martin called after that tuesday after he was told that there was not going to be an arrest. and he was told that. so the reason why we had the protests and filed 911 lawsuits and mhad all young people, reverend brown, was to get to this point. we had to do that to ge

ms. fulton, who operated with great desenty and honor throughout this situation and she lost the most in this situation, she lost her son. >> and that goes for the knea nazi groups down there and they are trying to stir up trouble and creating an environment that is not safe for people in sanford and the surrounding areas. let's go back to the case, shannon, if we can for a minute. i scud about this last night. you interviewed the one eyewitness in the case. said was there a second eyewitness. both of them now saying that trayvon, they saw, they have now put on record in your interview the case of the one witness that was out that night, that trayvon was beating george zimmerman. that seems to me that that's going to be a very big part of any trial that occurs in this case. would you agree? and what new developments do you have, if any? >> well, you would think. and i certainly think marco omra is going to talk heavily with those against any others who may have that same thought or saw the same thing. today when we got that probable cause affidavit thing -- >> i read it. >> it didn't say

ms. fulton and mr.artin have said that i was very proud they said that because we are a country that you are innocent until you are proven guilty. he said that he had a life altering experience. it was a little painful for them because their son experienced a life ending experience. it's one of those things if that's your child and he sun armed, walking home from the store, as they believe and all the evidence they believe that he was doing, and that he shot by neighborhood watchman with a 9-millimeter, is he not even arrested. it just seems extremely unfair. so they are dealing with it the best they can. i want to say, laura, please tell bill when i was on last time he said that they, of course, are going to arrest him. well it's 43 days now and we are still waiting. we have faith in the system but there is no arrest yet. >> laura: and, mr. crump, we only have a short period of time and a lot has happened in the aftermath of this shooting. undoubtedly. there has been an incident where another network e

ms. fulton and mr. proud they said that because we are a country that you are innocent until you are proven guilty. he said that he had a life altering experience. it was a little painful for them because their son experienced a life ending experience. it's one of those things if that's your child and he sun armed, walking home from the store, as they believe and all the evidence they believe that he was doing, and that he shot by neighborhood watchman with a 9-millimeter, is he not even arrested. it just seems extremely unfair. so they are dealing with it the best they can. i want to say, laura, please tell bill when i was on last time he said that they, of course, are going to arrest him. well it's 43 days now and we are still waiting. we have faith in the system but there is no arrest yet. >> laura: and, mr. crump, we only have a short period of time and a lot has happened in the aftermath of this shooting. undoubtedly. there has been an incident where another network ended up editing the 911 tape th

ms. fulton, attorney jackson, our legal team, didn't make one promise to us, said, we will look at all the evidence, every piece of the evidence and based on the evidence, that she would make a decision, not based on public pressure, not based on anything else but the evidence. we always believe from day one is if you looked at the evidence fairly and impartially, that you would have to come to the conclusion that he had to be arrested and that this man had to go before a judge and a jury. that is all that tracy martin and sabrina fulton and their family have asked for, nothing more and nothing less. before i bring them up, i do go back, reverend sharpton and reverend brant to the call that has been well-documented now where tracy martin called after, that tuesday after he was told that there was not going to be an arrest. he was told that. the reason we had the protest and filed 911 lawsuit saying all the young people, reverend brant at change.org, was to get to this point. we had to do that to get to this point. it is because of that there, we can take a short breath, a short bre breath,

fulton and [inaudible] >> thank you. commissioner tidwell: yes. mr. alonzo, yes. mr. schreiber, yes. mr. leigh, yes, ms. melara, yes. ms. mondejar, yes. mr. pilpel, yes. -- not at this time. >> could i ask a process question? at the appropriate time. please make this change. commissioner leigh: the process question or suggestion that i would offer is, is it possible for us to use where we were prior to this move as a starting point or launching point that we could possibly revisit if we wanted to? our process we have made one move at a time and that is -- has worked very well but given the delicate place where we find ourselves, not having a lot of time in all these dominance. i am wondering if we could remember where we were prior to making this move. explore and continue and finish the remaining -- deliberations about the dominos we need to consider within our permitted variances. and see how we each field boulware week and up and perhaps consider whether we prefer that place or that the outcome where we were prior to the vote we just took. i do not want to overly complicate things. i am concerned that we are goin

ms. miller, you would still be able to hear amplified sound kind of on the other side of the room. i live off fulton street and i know a number of the neighbors are saying it's so loud you can hear it inside your place. so it sure sounds like 50 feet is a very lenient requirement. so i'm hoping that we could look at other ways to reduce the amplified sound so it's not disruptive around surrounding neighborhoods around golden gate park and other spots, too. but it sounds like 50 feet is a pretty large area, and that could allow noise and tour bus that's are way too loud, i think. >> and if i could respond to that, because i actually had exactly the same reaction that supervisor mar did around the 50-foot requirement. and there are two things of note. first of all, there is a state law on this area. and for the local jurisdiction, like san francisco, to actually make it shorter than 50 feet could potentially create some issues. but just as importantly and perhaps, patrick, you could speak to this. i do understand that there were tests that were done by your department and tom, who manages this departm