ms. carol galante, who is the acting federal housing administration commissioner is seated at the witness table with secretary donovan, and is accompanying him today. and we appreciate your presence. and i understand you are going to assist, if needed, the secretary eric and i have enjoyed our conversation over the past few months. so we welcome you to this hearing. mr. neugebauer for two minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman -- >> we're having a little longer opening statements but these are important matters and i think it's important that those dems who wish to make an opening statement do so. >> thank you, mr. chairman, mr. secretary, it's good to have you. you know, mortgage interest rate, fund report was issued, and it was a little ironic because that didn't paint a very pretty picture that yeah, the summary said that it is actually the sound. and i was pretty sure if i went to webster that an entity that had less than 1 penny of equity in fact it's not just less than 1 penny it is less than a quarter of a penny in equity with such huge out of business would not be an entity that was