ms. gandhi. and yesterday, when we were talking -- and i really appreciate you're reaching out to me over the weekend -- you indicated that you had kind of searched high and low on what is publicly accessible on the internet really to a divestment plan, and we're having trouble finding. what do you think about that? >> that's an excellent point. i think we should bring more transparency because without being able to really understand what our goals are and publicly talking about them in a very clear fashion, i mean, in business that's what i do. we talk about what we're trying to achieve for the year, for the next few years, and then every board meeting we talk about where we are compared to those goals we set out as a company. so similarly, i agree. it is hard to find this information. and it should not be. and we should be able to bring more transparency to the process. and i will try my best to be able to create some sort of a transparency as much as possible to this process so we can then go