ms. goldman for her courage and express gratitude for standing up.of us in the united states feel the way she does. she's touched on trauma that affects young children. thed you talk about what trauma is for these young kids? these kids are going to grow up. what lasting effects might there be, and how does that affect the foster care system? i work with foster care kids in the courts. the system is taxed already. i wonder if you could talk about the long-term effects. guest: thank you for your comments. the long-term effects are deeply documented. there's a long history of child develop and research that talks weut the lovers of all, think about children from the border, the consequence the having a level of toxic stress that creates lifelong impact, potentially. for the children we interviewed, the millions of children who are fearntly being affected by , stress, the lack of access to health and nutrition that they need, by uncertainty in their housing and their parents' jobs, for those children there is also a powerful body of research about the i