ms. goodman: we have to bring them back. mr. goss: they might have killed me. [laughter] no, look, what i am about to tell you is not the majority view. i do presidential history, but also do intelligence history and in my view a lot of damage was done, and i know my colleagues here are not going to agree with this at all, but if you want to penetrate a group like al qaeda or isil, you got to do some pretty nasty stuff. and that just is not sit well with the congressional oversight committees, which were created in the mid-1970's after the church committee, that i alluded to earlier. i think there has been a lot of restrictions put in place and a lot of things that make the congressional overseers uncomfortable, which is why and explained some of those intelligence failures, not all of them. the language problem i think director goss alluded to is critical as well. i think we have made some improvements there. but the fact -- and i grant you we need to have a debate in this country how much of a player do we want to be on the world stage? if the answer is we wa

ms. goodman: we have to bring them back. mr. goss: they might have killed me. [laughter] no, look, what i am about to tell you is not the majority view. i do presidential history, but also do intelligence history and in my view a lot of damage was done, and i know my colleagues here are not going to agree with this at all, but if you want to penetrate a group like al qaeda or isil, you got to do some pretty nasty stuff. and that just is not sit well with the congressional oversight committees, which were created in the mid-1970's after the church committee, that i alluded to earlier. i think there has been a lot of restrictions put in place and a lot of things that make the congressional overseers uncomfortable, which is why and explained some of those intelligence failures, not all of them. the language problem i think director goss alluded to is critical as well. i think we have made some improvements there. but the fact -- and i grant you we need to have a debate in this country how much of a player do we want to be on the world stage? if the answer is we wa

ms. goodman was a recipient of the women in journalism award, among other awards.. [applause] goss: thank you. we just had a very refreshing session next-door with students and other folks who asked penetrating questions about the bush doctrine, our security, our threats. i tell you that it is stimulating for someone like me to come back here and see that people are interested in things that matter today. and taking good questions under advisement and are willing to tackle some of the more controversial issues that we have. i think that the talk about the bush doctrine, a little bit, you need to understand that it was the change of a century. it was the beginning of new times, new landscapes, new challenges, in a way that we have not expected. not only that, we were dealing with some new thoughts, but with old machinery. some of the old institutions that had gotten accustomed to doing things a certain way certainly that would go to including some nations that were accustomed to having things a certain way. it would go to organizations that involved many countries,