ms. guthrie wasn't pandering in the interview in the kitchen.know why they were in the kitchen but they were. i didn't think she did a bad job, how did you see it? >> look, i don't think every question has to be deadly serious, right especially if you are doing something for the super bowl. here's the thing, president obama who does not take questions from reporters very often as we might have noticed does these kind of events, he does the super bowl because thinks he is going to get off the hook. he thinks there might be a greater chance he will get a pass. with you that was not the case. this is because the larger society is like hey we are having fun on super bowl let's not get into super hard politics and bum everybody out. this is his job. he needs to be held to account. it's the reporter's job no matter what the president wants and maybe what the maybe what people watching the super bowl want, to press him and get some answers. >> you didn't think miss guthrie was tough enough? >> savannah guthrie knows politics, and she knew what was goin