ms. hall ingram is the director of the iras a ofoto for care act office. before overseeing obamacare implementation for the irs ms. hall ingram was the commissioner for the irs tax exempt division. she served full-time in that role from 2009 to 2010. the administration has already delayed or revise several parts of the health law and in many cases unilateral action was directly at odds with congressional love. many americans have an uneasy feeling the administration is flying obamacare by the seat of its pants. there are some sobering recognitions that executive orders not put into law seem to be an everyday occurrence will change the law by definition if possible. it is our hope that ms. hall ingram will spell out the challenges the iras is facing so we stopped meeting the surprising yet still unsurprising news of how implementation is going poorly. in closing this is not going to be the committee's final hearing on obamacare implementation. the ranking members indicated he wants to hear more from irs witnesses. i do too. our intent is to bring additional

ms. hall ingram is a republican or democrat. >> this is the most messed up convoluted confusing law that i think has ever been passed. >> they tried again yesterday to not have her be here. so it raises just one simple question, why? what does she know that the irs doesn't want this committee, this congress and the american people to know? >> greta: griff jenkins trying to get more answers out of sarah hall ingram. >> what assurances can you can give the person who people that the irs is competent at this time to oversee obama care? can you give us any assurances of that? can you give the american people assurances that there won't be any targeting under the obama care enforcement? >> what role did you play in the targeting of conservatives in the tax exempt organization that you oversaw? you are just not going to talk to me, are you? [no response] >> i don't think you can can get out this way. who ordered the targeting? who is responsible? if not you? i think you guys may be lost. why is it that you simply won't talk to us? why were you picked for the job in the first place? that's a qu

ms. hall ingram was the commissioner for the irs tax exempted government entities division serving full time in that role from 2009 until 2010. the illustration is already delayed a revised several parts of the law and in many cases unilateral action was correctly at odds with congressional law. many americans have been cut easy feeling that the administration is flying a locker by the seat of its pants. there are some sobering recognitions that executive orders not contemplated seem to be an everyday occurrence where changes seem to be, by definition, and possible. it is our hope ms. hall and will spell of the challenges being face so that we stop reading this uprising, yet still unsurprising news of how the implementation is going poorly. in closing, it is that going to be the committee's final heat on obamacare petition for. the ranking member has indicated he was to hear more from iras witnesses. i do, too. our intent is to bring additional irs officials for testimony in the future. today we have focused on the gasol in her. i might note two things. first, repeatedly when we have asked,

hall ingram about the affordable care act. she testified before the house overnight committee on wednesday. >> thank you, mr. chairman. ms. ingram, you've been at the i.r.s. how long? >> i'm sorry. i was adjusting the mic, sir. >> you've been at the i.r.s. how long? >> over 31 years. >> and i want to go back to where the chairman was. you take the 6103 confidentiality statute pretty seriously at the i.r.s.? >> very seriously. >> let's put up the definition here, just the statute itself. there's no officer or employee of the united states shall disclose any return or return information obtained by him in any manner in connection with his or her service as such an officer or employee or otherwise or under the provisions of this section. this is the statute he was. it's pretty state forward. you can't share personal taxpayer information, correct? >> true. >> ok. and then in my opening statement, you gave a presentation to the i.r.s. overnight board where you highlighted this as you were talking about the affordable care act. we can put that slide up. this is from the presentation you gave, according to the mepts of that meet