ms. harman? ms. harman no. ms. schakowsky no. mr. gonzalez? mr. gonzalez no. mr. inslee. mr. inslee no. ms. baldwin? ms. baldwin no. mr. ross? mr. weiner? no. mr. weiner, no. mr. butterfield? mr. butterfield, no. mr. melancon? mr. melancon, no. mr. barrow? mr. barrow no. mr. hill? ms. matsui? ms. matsui, no. ms. castor, no. mr. murphy? mr. murphy no. mr. mcearney no. mr. braley no. mr. welsh? mr. welsh no. mr. bart? mr. barton votes no. mr. hall? mr. upton? mr. upton, no. mr. stearns? mr. stearns no. mr. deal? mr. deal no. mr. whitfield? mr. whitfield no. mr. shimkus? mr. shimkus no. mr. shaddock? mr. shaddock no. mr. blunt? mr. blunt no. mr. williams no. mr. radanovich no. mr. pitts no. miss bono mack no. mr. walden? mr. walden no. mr. terry? mr. terry no. mr. rogers? mr. rogers no. ms. myrick? [ applause ] myrick no. mr. sullivan? mr. sullivan? mr. sullivan no. mr. murphy of pennsylvania? mr. murphy no. mr. burgess? mr. burgess no. mrs. blackburn? mrs. blackburn no? mr. gainbridge no. mr. doany? mr. doany no. mr. boucher? mr. boucher no. mr. murphy? mr. murphy no. mr. rush? mr. rush

ms. harman? >> will yield? this is an amendment that i think mr. burton was going to except that i certainly want to congratulate you and mr. sarbanes. i think it is a well thought the amendment and doesn't preclude mr. by year as the ranking member from looking at further changes to it. but i don't want us to keep on picking up amendments and putting them aside. we back to close on some issues and this one is so reasonable and so right that i would hope it does go for the. >> thank you mr. chairman, reclaiming my time, i take your offer. i appreciate your good faith offer, however, we did work with a veterans committee member, stephanie sandlin, on this and we have been exploring how to solve this huge problem in the most effective way and we have come to this proposal and worked with mr. sarbanes and apply to yield to him for a minute. a form of this that would fit well in the health care bill. i do agree with the chairman that this is ready. i would offer to you after i yield to mr. sarbanes to work with you on some additional initiatives when i

ms. harman? >> will yield? this is an amendment that i think mr.urton was going to except that i certainly want to congratulate you and mr. sarbanes. i think it is a well thought the amendment and doesn't preclude mr. by year as the ranking member from looking at further changes to it. but i don't want us to keep on picking up amendments and putting them aside. we back to close on some issues and this one is so reasonable and so right that i would hope it does go for the. >> thank you mr. chairman, reclaiming my time, i take your offer. i appreciate your good faith offer, however, we did work with a veterans committee member, stephanie sandlin, on this and we have been exploring how to solve this huge problem in the most effective way and we have come to this proposal and worked with mr. sarbanes and apply to yield to him for a minute. a form of this that would fit well in the health care bill. i do agree with the chairman that this is ready. i would offer to you after i yield to mr. sarbanes to work with you on some additional initiatives when i t

ms. harman? >> will yield? this is an amendment that i think mr. burton was going to except that i certainly want to congratulate you and mr. sarbanes. i think it is a well thought the amendment and doesn't preclude mr. by year as the ranking member from looking at further changes to it. but i don't want us to keep on picking up amendments and putting them aside. we back to close on some issues and this one is so reasonable and so right that i would hope it does go for the. >> thank you mr. chairman, reclaiming my time, i take your offer. i appreciate your good faith offer, however, we did work with a veterans committee member, stephanie sandlin, on this and we have been exploring how to solve this huge problem in the most effective way and we have come to this proposal and worked with mr. sarbanes and apply to yield to him for a minute. a form of this that would fit well in the health care bill. i do agree with the chairman that this is ready. i would offer to you after i yield to mr. sarbanes to work with you on some additional initiatives when i

ms. harman? >> will yield? this is an amendment that i think mr.ton was going to except that i certainly want to congratulate you and mr. sarbanes. i think it is a well thought the amendment and doesn't preclude mr. by year as the ranking member from looking at further changes to it. but i don't want us to keep on picking up amendments and putting them aside. we back to close on some issues and this one is so reasonable and so right that i would hope it does go for the. >> thank you mr. chairman, reclaiming my time, i take your offer. i appreciate your good faith offer, however, we did work with a veterans committee member, stephanie sandlin, on this and we have been exploring how to solve this huge problem in the most effective way and we have come to this proposal and worked with mr. sarbanes and apply to yield to him for a minute. a form of this that would fit well in the health care bill. i do agree with the chairman that this is ready. i would offer to you after i yield to mr. sarbanes to work with you on some additional initiatives when i tak

ms. harman offered an amendment from taking medics from active duty and going to d&d.i have done all the due diligence. she did a great job. the only concern that was raided by anyone was dod was getting incentives to medics to leave active duty. outside of that there are no problems and i congratulate ms. harman for her amendment. >> very good. further amendments. who am i speaking to? mr. weiner? the clerk will report the amendment. >> amendment to the amendment and the nature of a substitute for h.r. 3200 by mr. weiner of new york and mr. welch of vermont. amended the vision a -- >> without objection then it will be considered as read and the gentleman from new york is recognized. >> reserve a point of order. >> and we had reserved point of order. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and i offer this amendment with the sponsorship of mister welch, also mr. doyle, ms. baldwin, michigan ask you, mr. rush, and mr. angle, and i think with the support of many americans who are asking fundamental questions about the way the build we are considering a structured and whether or not

ms. harman and i join a desire to deal in a bipartisan way with our challenges.nd i will acknowledge from the git-go that everyone, democrat and republican alike, decries deficit spending. i mean, we all regularly talk about the fact that we need to get our fiscal house in order. that was a plank of the platform that president obama ran on, and it's the plank of the platform of virtually every candidate for public office. and i believe that we should work in a bipartisan way to get our fiscal house in order. the problem that i have with the measure that's before us is to me it's the quintessential example of the effort that we often see on legislation. sometimes we tend to do what makes us feel good rather than doing good. the reason i say that as i listen to the thoughtful remarks of my blue dog friends, they talked about exactly what i raised. that being the challenge that families are facing at the kitchen table. recognizing that because of difficult economic times it is essential for them to reduce their spending, to increase their savings and to pay down the

ms. harman? ms. harman, no. ms. schakowsky? many schakowsky votes no. mr. gonzalez? mr. gonzalez, no.ly? mr. enzly, no. ms. baldwin? ms. baldwin, no. mr. ross? mr. wiener? mr. wiener, no. mr. matheson? mr. matheson, no. mr. butterfield? mr. butterfield, no. no. mr. bare rose? mr. barrow, no. mr. hill? mr. hill, no. ms. matsui? ms. matsui, no. mrs. christensen? mrs. christensen, no. ms. katzer? ms. katzer, no. mr. sorbet? mr. sorbet, no. mr. murphy of connecticut? mr. murphy, no. mr. spade? mr. mcnewer ne? mr. mcnewer ne votes no. ms. sutton, no. mr. braillely? mr. braillely, no. mr. welch? mr. welch, no. mr. barton? mr. barton votes aye. mr. hall? mr. hall, aey. mr. upton? mr. upton, aye. mr. stern? mr. deal? mr. deal votes aye. mr. whitfield? mr. whitfield, aye. mr. schimpf kiss? aye. mr. blunt? mr. buier? mr. buier votes aye. mr. redone vits? mr. redone vits, aye. mr. pitt? mr. pitt, aye. ms. bono-mack? aye. mr. walden? mr. walden, aye. mr. terry? mr. terry votes aye. mr. rogers? mr. rogers, aye. mrs. myra? mr. sullivan? mr. sullivan votes aye. mr. murphy of pennsylvania? mr. murphy

ms. harman. >> thank you. >> we have been trying to operate five on each side.we had five on each side so far. >> this is a critical debate, mr. chairman. >> it is critical so i will recognize you and if you will yield to others. >> i will yield to mr. doyle. just very quickly. i recognize how personal this subject is too everybody sitting here. and most of us are parents and those of us who are mothers and have daughters, have really struggled with this overhears. but here's my point. and i would like to ask us to counsel. the comment though on the other side we are talking about federal dollars subsidizing plans. my understanding is that federal dollars subsidized parts of premiums for individual people, is that correct? >> yes. >> who then purchase plans. >> yes, ma'am. >> so generalizing it to the whole plan i think is somewhat misleading. do you agree? >> i -- >> well, my personal view is it is somewhat misleading. second, is it true, counsel, that many private plans that many people purchase, including people sitting in this room, include abortion services