ms. hartley, the consulting catastrophe -- study that you referenced, that san francisco is the second most expensive place to build, could you haot to us? >> i would be happy to. >> mr. hughes: the public expenditure dollars that are shown, that's outside of rad, correct? >> yes, that is outside of rad. >> ms. chu: mr. carlson? >> mr. carlson: one, on the summary report, it's quite watered down from last report. and did not include the fact that these are the 2015 affordable housing bonds. and as of what date? i would appreciate on future reports go back, so it's a littlemore. >> sorry about that. arlson: a i really appreciate the detailed report. there is a lot of great information in that. on page 27 of that report, the total number of affordable units that are projected to be created is a 1388. and in the last report it was 1785. so somewhere along the line we lost about 400 units. it looks like about 250 are in the low-income housing that may be from switching from laguna honda to the other two. but the middle income housing that dropped by 170 units and i didn't see discussion of that

ms. chu: mr. bush? >> mr. bush: i had an opportunity to talk to kate hard hartley, she was very informative. i think -- a minute or two, to put context into the housing bond. because the housing bond is a little different than the bonds we have. on the others we have the city doing the construction and this one, it's not the city. what happened in many bonds is that there is not as much specificity as you expect, which makes it harder to evaluate, that people are getting what they thought they were getting. that can be advantage in how we spend the money and it can be a concern for people in the community. for example, if you thought a park was coming in by you and it's not going to come in by you, you don't know for sure why that is. what i want to make clear is the that the city is not gaining the bond, it's not playingolit with it. there a dreevelopments that require the city to be more nimble in how its spending money. some of the ones that need to be acknowledged is the north bay wildfires, that destroyed hundreds of homes. the explosion in construction in the city. both ofch created a