ms. hassan: thank you. administrator murphy, the plan calls for moving some retirement health care and processing services into g.s.a. i know in your opening remarks you touched a little bit on g.s.a.'s experience in this regard. but can you drill down a little bit more? what experience does your agency have with those kinds of policies that make this a good fit? ms. murphy: thank you very much, senator. so i first want to start by saying that the transition of either retirement or health care to g.s.a. has not been decided. that's a phase two issue. it's one we're continuing to do a lot of exploration with. we'll be looking at that for 2020 or 2021 budget. however, when you look at g.s.a.'s role, we're not really a policy -- organization. we're an administrative back office. so we take the policy directives or mission requirements from our customer agencies, where it be o.p.m., where we already work with things like the human capital and trading solutions contract, or many other programs. and we then put t

ms. hassan: thank you, senator wyden.thank you for your leadership for our seniors, for our nation's economy and for all of our people. i really appreciate it. thank you. mr. wyden: i thank my colleague. i have one brief comment to wrap up. i see my colleague from florida here. mr. president, my colleagues have essentially spent close to an hour talking about these programs that are literally a lifeline to millions of americans. medicare and medicaid. it has always been. it's been highlighted tonight that we've had to play a lot of defense to prevent big attacks on these programs. you even see them in the president's budget as i went page by page when what we really would like to do is play offense and think about the future. my colleague from florida is here, and he has a very large elderly population, as many senators do. when i was director of the great panthers, medicare had two parts. there was part a for hospitals and part b for doctors. that was it. you had a broken ankle, you went to the hospital. that was part a.

ms. perry: absolutely. sen. hassan: that is at the core of much of this, right? it is not just about tracking, it's letting people know they have an obligation that is not optional. even if it damages the institutional or reputations, it is not optional, because protecting our athletes has to be the priority. ms. perry: absolutely. and i want you to know that the things we're doing as an notnization to make sure only actions, but each time a professional member is registering for a new application or renewing, as a condition of their membership, they go through the safe sport course, that talks about those kind of things. sen. hassan: thank you. i want to turn, and with a little bit of indulgence from the chair, the last question to mr. engler. one of the things that concerns me the most, it has been shocking and settling, that individuals have come forward and not only have to relive their worst nightmares to tell their stories, that they are still often not believed, or motives or personal character are attacked. i am sorry to say that you recently made remarks