ms. haynes was the first time you found out the police had been informed? >> yes, five minutes before. >> you have learned that from ivory? >> she found me in the street and said, you are going to kill me. i just call the police, and the police is coming. >> you had a series following that conversation -- you had a series of conversations on the afternoon of january 4. what was the substance of those conversations amonte -- of those conversations? >> after i knew about ivory calling the police, i felt betrayed. i felt that i'd betrayed ross. i was afraid of what was going to happen with theo. i was panicking. >> you were very upset this was possibly going to become a matter of public knowledge. is that correct? >> yes. >> is it fair to say all the conversations you had with ms. haynes from that point on, january 4, were primarily talking about how can we stop this from blowing up? i said that point, no. -- at that point, no. i was talking about what would happen. she told me this was confidential, and when i was walking to city hall, she realized, the video

ms. her alta haynes around 4ing -- ms. peralta haynes around 4:00 p.m. in the afternoon, did you ask her for advice about how to stop the police investigation? >> the only thing i remember -- i do not remember what we were talking about. i just remember maybe saying how could this happen, oh, my gosh, what are we going to do? this is a disaster, how she could do that. when you're panicking, these are the kind of things you said. you cannot be -- you feel betrayed. i was feeling betrayed and was so angry. >> did you discuss with ms. peralta haynes what you should do with regard to telling ms. madison what you wanted her to do? >> i do not remember -- i think i remember saying what is going to happen now? >> now, you had some other calls with ms. madison that afternoon? >> yes. >> and in those calls, the purpose of your calls to them was to tell them not to share any of the information you had given to ms. madison, is that correct? >> they -- well, any of them have my permission to disclose all the conversations that we had. >> and that's why you made the

ms. peralta haynes before you handed the phone to ms. madison? >> how long i was talking with ms. peralta haynes? how long it takes to say -- 30 seconds, one minute. >> ok. and what did you hear ivory madison say to ms. peralta haynes? >> i really was trying to pay attention but i couldn't understand anything ivory said. i was so shaking. >> ok. after ivory madison handed the phone back to you, what did you do? >> i do not remember exactly why i -- what i told linnette. i think i told her call ross. let him know what is happening. and goodbye. >> ok. and did you tell ivory madison that you were concerned for your husband's career at that time? >> she was repeating screw him and why you trying to protect him? so i said, i do not want to screw him. he's a great politician. >> ok. >> how i am going to destroy him -- >> did you ask ivory madison to tell the police she made a mistake? >> i told her i did not recall exactly what i said because i was almost crying. >> ok. did you tell her not to cooperate with the police? >> i remember saying you don't have my permission to do this. i tru

ms. peralta haynes? >> yes. >> did you speak with ms. peralta haynes before your father that day? >> i do not remember. >> did you definitely speak with your father that morning? >> i actually, i think i did.

ms. peralta haynes? >> i would say a few years ago when she was a legislative aide here at the board of supervisors and maybe before then. >> and when did she join your campaign for sheriff? >> about five weeks before the election. >> and can you describe your wife's relationship with lynette peralta haynes? 2011. >> i would say friendly, social. >> did you introduce them? >> i believe they just met themselves but since ms. peralta haynes worked on our campaign, that must have been one of the ways that they met. they could have met even before. >> have you referred to ms. peralta haynes in the past as a domestic violence advocate? >> me personally? >> yes. >> no. >> is your relationship with ms. paulettea haynes in the professional capacity as a political consultant or a domestic violence advocate? >> it's always been on a political/social level. >> sheriff, exhibit 82, which is an exhibit that's in the record is at&t phone records. that exhibit shows the 11:18 a.m. on january 4, your wife and lynette pe

ms. peralta haynes? >> yes. >> did you speak with ms. peralta haynes before your father that day? >> i do not remember. >> did you definitely speak with your father that morning? >> i actually, i think i did. in your declaration at paragraph 13, you write that you sponleded to ivory, and i'm quoting, very briefly and not as nicely as usual because i realized ivory was calling ross' enemies against my wishes. what brought you to the realization that as of 12-24 on the fourth ms. madison was calling your husband's enemies against your wishes? >> in our conversation on january 4 when she was trying to convince me to call the police, and she said, we can bring district attorney here, phil brownstein, the chief of poce, she also mentioned pamela harris an also mentioned gavin newsom as her friends and someone who is going to help to do everything against ross. and also she was repeating in our conversation in january 4 and why i was -- the only way i could get out of her house, was saying i have to call my dad is because she was telling me, screw him. at that moment, actually, i didn't

haynes as a domestic violence advocate. you said you had never personally described ms. peralta haynes that way. >> i don't believe so i had. i believe i knew that was in her background, but that was not her relationship with me. >> ok. now this text message from ms. peralta haynes at 3:53 p.m. says, i need to talk to you to protect you. call me. >> do domestic violence advocates usually protect the frarptse or victims of the violence? >> objection. >> objection sustained. there's no foundation. >> so sheriff you are aware of the portrayal of ms. linnette peralta haynes as a domestic violence advocate. >> i have heard of the references. >> but to you she's a political consultant. >> i think you've established that fact. >> now sheriff, if we look further in exhibit 3, -- in exhibit 83. if you look on page three. we see a text message from your wife to you at 4:18 p.m. in the afternoon. stating call me, it is an emergency. do you see that? >> i do. >> do you recall receiving that text message from your wife? >> yes. >> and when did you -- what did you do in response to tha

ms. peralta haynes your lawyer was thinking about calling the ms. peralta haynes your lawyer was thinking about calling the

ms. haynes because you wanted to talk to her about the incident. is that correct? >> yes. >> you were fairly consistent with trying to reach her for that purpose? were you not? >> yes, i wanted to realize that was really a domestic violence. >> had you ever prior to the time you were texting her about is, had you ever spoken to ms. haynes about your personal relationship with ross democrats know, just comments during the campaign. everybody gets sick, and no one can follow iis reason. that kind of thing. >> you never had more than a 40 minute conversation with ms. haynes, and in that conversation, did you describe what had happened on december 31? >> yes. >> what if any response did she give to you when you told her those facts? >> what was her response to? >> what did she say in response? >> she was asking more questions, and she was explaining domestic violence is a lot of things, so to know you are in a domestic violence situation implied a lot of different things, so just one isolated thing, maybe it is not. however, that does not mean it is right. it is wrong,

ms. peralta haynes' testimony? >> describe the content? >> yes. >> i read her declaration online. >> i mean, her testimony before the commission last night, did anybody tell you about it? did anybody tell you what she said? >> no, i was trying to looking for that but in my ipad, i cannot see it. >> ok. now, there's an exhibit that's already in the record and i'm not going to ask you to look at it. it shows three text messages that you sent to linnette peralta haynes at 10:55 and 10:56 a.m. on the morning of january 4. do you still have those text messages on your phone? >> no. >> when did you -- do you still have the phone that you had at that time? >> no. >> ok. did you get a new phone? >> yes. >> about when did you do that? >> i think it's each year you can with at&t, you can upgrade your cell phone. and i think that happened exactly in january and i upgrade my cell phone because if you don't do that, you have to wait another year. >> so you got a new phone in january? >> yes. well, i'm not sure was january or february. >> did you hear h