ms. helman has had problems in past jobs as well. she left washington state under a cloud of suspicion for cooking the books on -- >> suicide. >> suicide numbers. so the fact is, she's had issues before, allegations. our veterans deserve the best, not mediocre. >> they do. and i understand how you've had a plethora of comments. since covering this story on "the real story," i've had so many facebook posts from people reaching out saying, this happened to me, this happened to my father, this happened to my uncle, et cetera. have you seen the hard evidence of this secret waiting list because she's denying it. so somebody's lying here. >> and actually i have to tell you, we have seen -- it's not been completely vetted. but if i had to bet on it, i think the documentation holds up really, really well. both matt and i have another issue. we've been meeting with employees, former employees. some of the stories are heartbreaking. but with that, there's been a consistency of the bad acts coming out in these discussions. >> it's such a seriou