ms. henley and if i don't do it right, you tell me. so she called ms. henley. she said ms. henley, you know, she introduced this book and she said we have your photo on the book. no, child you don't. oh, really? and so peggy said we have you talking to michelle obama, you know, how did that conversation go? and this apparently occurred on september 18th, 2008, when michelle was in richmond for an economic summit. and ms. henley was talking. well, child, i don't know what -- i don't know what she said to me because my knees were knocking so. i just don't remember. so peggy said, well, what did she say to you? she said well, i told her about myself and my husband, ms. henley is almost 80. and the fact that we had to get another job to support ourselves. we had jobs cleaning offices. and she and her husband were riding to work one day and he said to her, mary, mary, i can't feel my legs. my legs are numb. and he said, mary, my arms are numb. and he pulled the car over to the side of the road and he died. and so ms. henley told this story to michelle obama. and it was quite soon