ms. heyward to come up and provide additional details on the proposal. >> thanks. ms. ard, i appreciate your work although it has implicated a larger conversation and maybe today is not the day but i thought we use this as an opportunity to discuss the combined charity programs and its utility, its history and its future in an age where donations facilitated by the internet have become a lot easier so i wanted to have broader -- i'm prepared to vote for this and appreciate supervisor mandelman and your office's work on this but also am questioning whether we want to devote what i understand to be more than a full-time equivalent staff, more like to an ongoing program in an environment where charitable giving by people in general and city employees in particular is, has -- many less barriers these days. and so, i lean towards maybe starting a conversation to exercise this function from our government in total. maybe you want to comment on that as well as the specifics of the resolution before us. supervisor chan, sorry. i'm not looking at the screen. my apologies. >> no