ms. ingersoll, [speaker not understood] and ms. alloy. >> thank you for your thoughts. so, here's my thoughts. again, a tough decision here. but i am impressed with many of them, of the candidates. and the ones that sort of floated up to the top for me included jonathan alloy, your commitment and what you've done and you have proven that you're already in leadership within the group. and the other person that floated to the top for me was kia. and i looked at her resume. i didn't get to meet her personally. when i looked at her resume, the wealth of experience she brings into this group would be great. and the fact that somebody came and spoke for her speak volumes since the person that spoke for her, leah, is somebody i also respect. so, those are my two choices at this point. >> okay. so, that didn't necessarily make it any easier. but i did want to ask mr. bowen a follow-up question from his presentation, if that's okay. what stood out to me was some of the things that you mentioned about the past and some of the challenges that we face. i know that you served on the

ms. ingersoll, [speaker not understood] and ms. alloy. >> thank you for your thoughts. so, here's my thoughts. again, a tough decision here. but i am impressed with many of them, of the candidates. and the ones that sort of floated up to the top for me included jonathan alloy, your commitment and what you've done and you have proven that you're already in leadership within the group. and the other person that floated to the top for me was kia. and i looked at her resume. i didn't get to meet her personally. when i looked at her resume, the wealth of experience she brings into this group would be great. and the fact that somebody came and spoke for her speak volumes since the person that spoke for her, leah, is somebody i also respect. so, those