ms. jacobsen? >> thank you, mr. angle. obviously, as you've seen from our request, the figures have gone down over the last couple of years. this was, to some extent, our expectation, along with the mexicans'that those numbers will go down. mexicans were able to afford a great deal on their own. number two, equipment is more expensive than training, which is the area that we are most in now. i can't recall exactly at this moment a precise total figure that we are talking about, whether we are somewhere between $100 million and $200 million of assistance at this point. i expect that figure to be in the neighborhood trending downward, but slowly over the next two years, there is still an enormous amount to do, especially as ambassador brown has outlined. know, so much of the law enforcement and justice effort are at the state level, not just at the federal level to fight these kinds of crimes. nasa think it is critically out,tant, as beth pointed the real focus has to be on the communities themselves and the justice sector.

ms. jacobsen. before becoming assistant secretary of state for the bureau of western hemisphere affairs she formerly was the acting assistant secretary for western hemisphere affairs and formerly served as director of mexican affairs. we also have ambassador brownfield with us, assistant secretary for international narcotics and law enforcement affairs. he was the u.s. ambassador to colombia from 2007-2010 and served overseas in venezuela, al salvador, argentina, switzerland , and panama as a temporary political adviser to the u.s. command. ms. elizabeth hogan has 25 years of development experience in latin america. elizabeth f. hogan is the senior deputy assistant administrator for usaid bureau for latin america and the caribbean. previously she served as the director of the agency's 80 task team and was director of south american affairs. without objection, the witnesses full and prepared statement will be made part of the record, and members will have five calendar days to submit statements and

ms. jacobsen, you said in your comments that ar our border with mexico is more secure than ever., what data are using to come to that conclusion? >> i think that basically the data i would use to point to that is that there are fewer people coming in through -- we have net migration from mexico of zero. we have a period, we have more resources, more people, more high-tech equipment that's been used to obvious the resources provided by congress to keep the border secured. >> do you have a breakdown by state what those resources are? >> i could certainly get additional information from our colleagues at the department of homeland security. >> did you have input from the very state agencies responsible along those four states borders? >> we sir and work with many of the agencies in the states, as does dhs. >> because i was vice chairman of the border committee in texas, and i would tell you when i was there, and i was there before it came to congress this term, that wasn't their assessment that the border was safer. i can tell you that from speaking to steve mccraw, former fbi, a re