ms. kelley, my wife thinks your neck piece is very, very beautiful. ] >> host: what have you enjoyed, terry? have you read any of kitty kelley's work in. >> guest: got all her books. the sinatra book is the greatest book i've ever read, one of the most fascinating. ms. kelley, have you read the george jacobs sinatra book? >> guest: yes. and i interviewed george jacobs at length for my book. yes, i did read his book. it's hysterically funny -- >> caller: i'm sorry. please, talk peter into having him on? [laughter] >> guest: george jacobs was the valet to sinatra, and he traveled with sinatra. he used to sign for sinatra. he was a very funny man. i'm afraid now that he's, i'm afraid he's kind of slipped into dementia. but he was a wonderful source. and, yes, i did read his book. it was very good. you know, i told you that sometimes you turn down -- you're turned down for interviews, and i had tried to get an interview with this woman, nancy gunderson, who was not only a romance of sinatra's, but then became a friend of his. so she really would be someone