ms. kennan warnecke: humongous changes. brian: give us some examples. ms. nnan warnecke: one thing, now, a big differences they are modern. they were very old-fashioned. now you have fancy cars and modern apartment buildings, all of the things that the original moscow i went to did not have. people are much more traveled. more people speak english. and now, even though the tv and press is controlled, people will talk quite openly. people will talk to you about things they do not approve of, or things they like. it is never putin's fault. they are usually mad at the mayor of moscow, or the governor of some province. someone else takes the blame, not vladimir putin. brian: when did you meet putin? ms. kennan warnecke: i met him in 1991 in st. petersburg. he was deputy mayor. i was running my business consulting firm. i had a client who wanted something to do with the port of st. petersburg. i was meeting with the real mayor, he was called away and they substituted the deputy mayor, putin. i was not meeting with the mayor, i knew putin had been kgb. i was negat