ms. kerwin: thank you. great results. one observation i have, and you were talking about this before but i look at the charter school question and the decrease in support. i would have one observation for the group to possibly throw out and consider. we have seen a lot of activity in our statehouses across the country going after esas, trying to get voucher programs passed. and we've seen on the other side in chartering, it's mostly either to roll back charters overregulate them or really little or no progress. still eight states without charter school laws. there was a long time ago, charter schools were sort of the only thing taking off. now that we have our elected officials boldly trying to expand options, i wonder if the public has more knowledge because there's more talk about it than the charter. and one thing i would also suggest is that a lot of families don't even know they are in a charter school, especially if they are in a state where only local districts can authorize a charter school. a lot of families don'

ms. kerwin -- mr. mathias, earlier you said you had 8500 poles agreed to but that doesn't count the 11000 that you did previously. it's my understanding you're closing to 20,000 poles across the country that have been approved and that 20,000 is about out of 30,000, 35000 that they will need. we've already got two-thirds of the locations approved and ready to go. is that right? >> correct. >> thank you. and thank you mr. chairman for your indulgence. >> thank you. mr. barletta. >> safety is my first priority there's no question and positive train control is a necessary tool to improve safety, but the fact of the matter is that most railroads will not have the technology installed by december 31st 2015 deadline. today i'm wondering what happens on january 1st 2016, if the deadline remains? mr. loan grow, today ms. feinberg again committed to hold the railroads accountable for not meeting the ptc deadline, including potential fines and restrictions of service. if the deadline is not extended what actions