ms. fudge and mr. lambletter, but have talked about opposing the house leader, pelosi. so congresswoman, what happens, though, if they get to 17 and they have a no vote and they block her, do you think other people will come in and emerge, these alternatives will run against her? >> this is a very important question. we don't want to go on that house floor in january without the votes. it will be humiliating to the democrats. and what will happen is, you'll have vote after vote until she finally wins. by then you're already a week in caucus, you haven't taken up obamacare. you haven't taken up the notion that is so important to the people that we represent and paychecks are not where they should be. it's all been about you selfishly, about you, not about the american people. >> congresswoman norton, who knows her way around some of these issues, thanks for joining us tonight. >> my pleasure. >>> straight ahead, we turn to the power to investigate, the incoming oversight committee chair for the dems dishing