what i don't have understanding is to ms. lilly and the questions i was asking trying to get a better understanding. my policy my staff will meet with the person coming before committee we go over the questions and the challenge is never doug parish or willingly wong came to the office to reach out to us so i had more questions when it comes to workforce experience and development. i think ms. wong is a talented woman but in terms of her match ration in the professional world she just by virtue of being a youthful woman has not had the experience or wasn't demonstrate in her questions what is her goal had i asked the same questions to mr. parish i got tangible answers. so this question is critical because on the other questioning question that was critical well, mr. parish is on the board that's a good measure to were going to see if he articulated his accomplishment. with that, said i'll be willing to support doug parish and dj today. or we could appoint one person because there is consensus around dj and i don't know lilly reache