. >> so ms. lopez, did you tell ms. peralta haynes your lawyer was thinking about calling the police to report the december 31 incident with your husband? >> no. i didn't say that. >> so you never asked her any advice with regard to that possibility of your lawyer calling the police? >> what i told her my lawyer is suggesting, her plan is. her plan is like her advice, i thought that was her advice, no, actually her plan was accuse ross of domestic violence. >> ok. so you told ms. peralta haynes your lawyer was advising you to accuse your husband of domestic violence? >> uh-huh. >> yes? >> yes. >> what was ms. peralta haynes' response to that. >> i think she was asking me questions about if i was afraid of ross, how was the incident. and i told her actually is that what i was looking for is for therapy. and i asked her for a therapist. for counseling. because actually, i think that is the first step that when you go through a problem, you look for a professional that can help you. >> did ms. peralta haynes say anything t

>> i just want to know your recollection, ms. lopez, of when you started. >> when everything start. >> i just want to know your recollection of what time you started watching ms. peralta haynes' testimony? >> i don't know. >> how long did you watch her testimony? >> until the break. >> did you watch her testimony after the break? >> i come back downstairs at some point and maybe i saw the final part, and just before the commissioners, i couldn't hear the commissioners asking the questions. >> did anybody describe to you the content of ms. peralta haynes' testimony? >> describe the content? >> yes. >> i read her declaration online. >> i mean, her testimony before the commission last night, did anybody tell you about it? did anybody tell you what she said? >> no, i was trying to looking for that but in my ipad, i cannot see it. >> ok. now, there's an exhibit that's already in the record and i'm not going to ask you to look at it. it shows three text messages that you sent to linnette peralta haynes at 10:55 and 10:56 a.m. on the morning

from ms. lopez to ms. madison. i can bring you a copy. >> thank you. >> so ms. lopez, this text message, is this a text message you sent to ms. madison? >> yes. >> it reads, hello, ivory, i'm not going to call the police. i'm going to open a record with my doctor. why did you send that text message at 12:24 p.m.? >> i was -- after i left ivory, i talked with linnette. i talked with my dad, i think, and then i was doing all these things at home, and i totally forgot to go back to ivory. so she -- she text me at 11:45 that she finished her calls. and turns out my call, i told her -- that she had an appointment at 12:30 or something like that, by phone. and then i remember i didn't get back to ivory. so i said i just want to let her know i'm not going to call the police. >> and that's after you spoke with your father and ms. peralta haynes? >> yes. >> did you speak with ms. peralta haynes before your father that day? >> i do not remember. >> did you definitely speak with your father that morning? >> i actually, i think i did. in your declaration at paragraph 13, you

to go regard to ms. lopez or hurt efforts? >> you conceded the sheriff did not talk to miss maddison. Ñiin the two people that did are ms. haines and ms. lopez. are you alleging that she should come as madison not to talk to the police because the sheriff would use his power the basis of the latter effort on did report where miss lopez was officially turned and started to work on the other witnesses was that the share of new about it and did not do anything. he should have responded to the efforts that his wife and ms. haines for making. -- were making. >> you were saying he should then something but did not do. what should he have done with respect to this madisms. madiso? >> he should have at least try to persuade his wife to not call her and persuade her. he actually did the opposite. >> i am giving an example of the path he should have taken. take of the fact that he did not do that, my view is the evidence does not show he did that, but you think we should find that he committed official can dog -- misconduct because he di

>> no. >> ms. lopez, your testimony is that you never ran out of the house screaming on december 31st? >> yes. >> ok. now, after the fight with your husband on december 31, did you send a text message to abe mertens. >> december 31st? >> yes. >> and that message said, hello, where are you guys? >> yes. >> how long after the fight with your husband ended did you send that message to mr. mertens? >> i think that that was around0 when i started to make theo's lunch and i was hungry and we ate, theo and me, because i didn't want to cook for ross. and then we finished and i tried to put him down and he didn't want because we pass all the schedule, and then i took him to square park and when i was walking up the park, i text them because i was along with theo so maybe they can bring grace to play in the animal square park and i think that was around 2:00 or 3:00 because i was in the park between -- until maybe 4:00 p.m. >> ms. lopez, i asked you how long after the fight ended that you texted mr. mertens. >> an

at 5:20, he calls ms. lopez.he talks to her for four minutes until 5:24, and at 5:24, he calls you back. in the meantime, according to these records, at 5:24, ms. lopez calls ms. madison, so thereuw understand these records, and you can correct me if i -- if you have a different recollection, and i am encouraging that, if i understand these records, this is the hour and a time when the conversations back and forth begin, and you are having them, year is finally my question. were you aware that the sheriff and ms. lopez had connected on the phone by the time the sheriff called you? >> no, i did not know that. >> you're on aware that they had talked. >> -- you were unaware that they had talked. >> i said that she really needed to talk to him, to answer her phone or call us and texts, and i told him that a friend called the police about their argument where he gave her a bruise. that is what i told him. >> you told him nothing else. >> nothing else. >> did he ask you how you knew about this argument? >> he did, and

gregg's ms. lopez -- >> ms. lopez never testified to that. she testified to the opposite, which is what made the statement admissible. ms. williams made declarations, and it is also in the video, that he is very powerful. he said he can take away theo and that he is very powerful. >> it is your position that by saying he is powerful that it implies that he will use his power as an elected official and we should implied that he will use the power of his elected office to try to take custody of his child. or exert force over his wife. >> that is what ms. lopez said she understood it as. >> where is that testimony? >> there are two things. one is a testimony that she sent -- of a text message that she sent st., "use your power." she said that in her testimony. she understood her -- his power, and it is in circumstantial evidence as to what he meant when he said he was very careful. -- powerful. ili am happy to give specific e reverences' after i have a chance to sit down and look at the -- references after i have a chance to sit down and look at

>> no. >> ms. lopez, if you could just review that document and let me know whether it refreshing your recollection as to whether you made this release on january 5 or 6? >> the date again? >> january 5 or 6. >> and what is your question? >> does this droument refresh your recollection whether you made a press release on january 5 or 6? >> yes. >> ok. and you did? >> yes. >> when? the 5th? is that what we've established? >> yes. now i remember. they closed -- >> that's fine. thank you. i just was confused. >> ok. so there was a release on the 5th? >> yes. >> ok. and did jim stearns assist in that release? >> i wrote this with my lawyer and then they -- i think they check everything and they were agree. >> jim stearns was agreed? >> i was not present. >> objection, relevance. >> ok. >> sustained. >> the relevance was going to become clear in just a moment. i have to lay a foundation to get there. >> well, what -- >> ok. did mr. stearns work on your husband's campaign for sheriff? >> yes. >> and was he inv

>> no. >> ms. lopez, last night when we left off, i asked you about whether you made a statement to your husband on december 31 along the lines of, please stop, look at what you're doing to our son, do you know what this going to do to him, please stop for our son? and then you mentioned that the first time you told your husband to stop was in the mini-van. do you recall that testimony? >> si -- yes, i'm sorry. >> that's ok. what was your husband doing to you in the family mini-van that led you to tell him to stop? >> he grabbed my arm. >> how long did he hold on to your arm? >> he grabbed my arm and i said stop, it was one second. how much you can take the time. "stop." >> i think the record should reflect that the witness moved her right arm suddenly across her torso. chairperson hur: record should so reflect. >> were you a danger to your son at the time that your husband grabbed your arm? >> whether i was a danger? >> yes. >> no. >> do you think that your husband needed to defend your son from you? >>

if ms. lopezeeds the interpreter to a understand the question or provide the answer, an interpreter was available. time. >> [inaudible] >> ok, perfect. thank you. Å the new

. >> ms. lopez, exhibit 50 is a four-page exhibit. the first page is a response to an email that you wrote and then the next three pages show the full email that ms. madison wrote to you. >> yes. >> and so if you look at the -- if you turn past the first page to the second page, you'll see the beginning of a longer email from ms. madison to you dated monday, january 2, 2012, at 10:59 a.m. do you see in a. >> in that? >> yes. >> and you received that email from ms. madison while you were in monterey? >> yes. >> and you r email? >> yes. >> and the response to that email is the first page of exhibit 50. you see that, that's an email you sent january 2, 2012, at 11:18 a.m. >> yes. >> ok. now, what's the first line of the email that you wrote to ivory madison? >> i am agreed with everything. >> and by that you meant you agreed with everything she wrote to you? >> do you want to explain what i mean with that? >> you wrote i am agree with everything. do you mean you agree. >> yes, in her email. she said. >> ms. lopez, i haven't finished my qu

talk -- ms. lopezstified and told you that on january 4, during your multiple conversations and texts with her, did you provide her with any ideas about how to handle or deal with the situation of the video becoming public? >> no. and did not. >> did you provide any ideas about dealing with theú>8ú>qj sn of the video turned over to the police? i did not. there were 25 or 30 text with a share for mirkarimi, did you provide him with any ideas or suggestions on how to deal with this situation with the video becoming public? >> no. i did not. >> did you provide sheriff mirkarimi with ideas on how to do with the video being turned over to the police? >> no. i did not. >> let me ask you -- to the asking for help in that regard? >> no. they did not. you testified that ms. lopez was stress and on the verge of tears or crying in the background during one of the conversations when you were handed over the phone -- the fall was handover to you and use -- you ended up -- the phone was handed over and you added up

. >> ms. lopez, you mentioned you had been suggesting to your husband for the past year -- i don't want to put words in your mouth. were you asking him for the past year to start therapy with you? >> yes. >> why? >> because when i move here, the only reason when i move here was because i met him and i want to have a family with him and was very hard for me to leave my home town, my career, but i want to do it because i decide that when in the moment when i decide to have a baby, i want to spend with him at least the first three years. so when i came here, for him, the home birth was not even an idea and i said i want a home birth because that is the safest and that is the best for our son. so i was very committed to do the best thing for my son. but after three years, he want to go back to work so to work for me is to be an actress and english is my second language so be working in san francisco as an actress, i couldn't find any place, not any tv station for work so i was trying to looking for thin

ms. lopez, if you thought ivory madison was calling your husband's political enemies, why did you follow her advice and talk to cali williams? >> oh, because at this point i didn't know she was -- no, i did -- at that point i knew she was -- she was using -- i do not remember if at that point i knew she was using our names. when i found that -- maybe i knew at that point that she was using our names. on january 4. that i understood she will never call the police without my consent. so i was trying to be clear on january 4. i do not want to call the police. i want to call a therapist. this is what my emails are about therapy. >> so when you decided to go out and talk to cali williams, at that point in time, did you think ivory madison was out there calling your political enemies -- your husband's consent, or did you think that ivory madison wasn't going to call anybody without your consent? >> you are right. very tupeid. i think we were -- for me saying we are not going to call the police, i'm n

>> no, i do not. >> you remember ms. lopez Â&zúg ms. mattison, that she understood everything? sorry. power point would have been so much better, so from 5 car 48 you talked for five minutes. -- 5:48 you talk for five minutes. that brings us to 5:43. this was supposed to be 5:43 untilñ"-" there were several attempts by you to call share of mirkarimi -- sheriff mirkarimi, and you texted, call me. you know what you wanted him to call at that point? >> i do not recall. most likely i was checking in to see if they were ok. >> to the best of your recollection you were trying to provide support? thwacks and to make sure they were connected. new -- >> to make sure they were connected. >> at 5:51, you may recognize this from the paper, eliana texts, you have to call hennessy and stop this before something happens. ivory is giving the investigators everything. use your power. from that phone call you have, did you know that lopez was going to text the sheriff? >> absolutely not. >> she did not tell you about planned communications? >> absolutely not. she was forming? >> she only shared

ms. lopez, i'm going to actually stop you. this is not an answer -- >> sorry. >> to the question. mr. keith, please proceed. >> ms. lopez, earlier you mentioned that ms. madison was advising you to call the police? >> that was that i told linnette. >> ok. but then your declaration you say you realized she was actually calling your husband's political enemies against your wishes. >> yes. >> what new information did you get or -- >> that i didn't -- >> what new information did you get around that time that ms. madison was out there calling your husband's political enemies. >> that's asked and answered. >> mr. keith, last time you asked that question you got a very -- i think you got a pretty detailed answer. what are you -- >> i don't think i got an answer to the question that i asked. that's why i'm asking the question in this way. >> i'll withdraw the objection. >> ok. ms. lopez, please proceed with your answer. >> repeat the question, please. i feel the same, don't worry. >> if the court repor