ms. maring. >> you have all that pg&e work going on? >> but that's necessary and they're doing a good job. >> clerk: thank you. we will now hear from the permit holder. >> good evening and welcome. >> thank you very much. i'm joseph kanisha with x and f systems. we are the permit holders. you, i'm sure, read the brief and visited the neighborhood. i will be brief in my summary of what i consider the primary issues with this appeal. they are the assertion that public notification did not occur properly, that the planning determination -- planning approval determination was made in error and that the planning approval determination was made in error. in each case we believe that they were correctly done. we believe that the applicable agencies correctly approved the proposals. real quickly, i'd like to demonstrate how these things were true. regarding public notice, article 25 requires that we both post notices in a variety of locations around the subject proposed installation. we did that. we actually posted six notices on 17th between l