ms. mathews comm3 >> i just had the question by referring to ms. mathews comment about trading and her children's education for somebody else earning a dollar. to what extent do you think our fears have either been borne out in subsequent civil rights litigation or have her fears than answered in a positive light in subsequent right civil litigation? >> that's an interesting question. well, i can say this. in atlanta, the perspective of the african-american middle class one out, that disarmament was put into place. atlanta was able to have an african-american school superintendent. it's the school board initially 50% african-american and soon the majority african-american pit the same truth of the city council. and over time, chief mayor and over time atlanta, like many other cities became a black controlled city. and the theory that the african-american middle class hyatt was the same race representation controlled african-american would yield progress for the entire group. and what ms. mathews is challenging -- he was challenging the premise as ea