th.thank you, ms. mcba we went out to the questions for the witness, and each member will have seven minutes. i will start. th, thankn and ms. mcba you for coming here today and your kurds. your courage. i find it hard to understand those who defend stand your ground by arguing that african- americans should celebrate these laws. the notion that somehow this is to the benefit of african- americans or minorities in this country justifies the stories we have been told by both of you -- innocent children killed in the name of self-defense, when in neither instance was there evidence of aggressive or violent conduct by these victims, these young men who were shot down. professor sullivan, you have heard these arguments made to members here about this notion that somehow african-americans should view this as a positive thing on stand your ground. what would you respond? >> i would agree with your statement, senator or rep. it is not a positive thing where citizens are running around shooting each other whether t