ms. mccartt said that we will be the same seniors, but i think things are changing. have a question for all of you. is there any agreed-upon age at which we would say someone is an older driver? i guess this also goes back to a 70 the new 64 is a new 70? what is an older driver and do we have a definition, maybe not there dellinger i'll go to you. >> the short answer is no. i think we've used 65 and 70 as the most common ages to talk about older drivers. i think 65 because that's when traditionally social security started. i don't think there's any biologic or physiologic reason that we decided to use 65 and above. we can use 70 and above. i think that those u-shaped curves for crash involvement you can make a case for 70 above. you could probably also make a case for 75 and above. but there is no right answer to that. >> i have a number of questions and so if you want to jump in. doc dÜrer rosenbloom and dobbs, i was interested in a segment to all raised. i was intrigued by your chart that showed how people felt selected, who self-select and that women tend to stop

ms. mccartt said that we will be the same seniors, but i think things are changing. have a question for all of you. is there any agreed-upon age at which we would say someone is an older driver? i guess this also goes back to a 70 the new 64 is a new 70? what is an older driver and do we have a definition, maybe not there dellinger i'll go to you. >> the short answer is no. i think we've used 65 and 70 as the most common ages to talk about older drivers. i think 65 because that's when traditionally social security started. i don't think there's any biologic or physiologic reason that we decided to use 65 and above. we can use 70 and above. i think that those u-shaped curves for crash involvement you can make a case for 70 above. you could probably also make a case for 75 and above. but there is no right answer to that. >> i have a number of questions and so if you want to jump in. doc dÜrer rosenbloom and dobbs, i was interested in a segment to all raised. i was intrigued by your chart that showed how people felt selected, who self-select and that women tend to stop

ms. mccartt said that we will be the same seniors, but i think things are changing.ave a question for all of you. is there any agreed-upon age at which we would say someone is an older driver? i guess this also goes back to a 70 the new 64 is a new 70? what is an older driver and do we have a definition, maybe not there dellinger i'll go to you. >> the short answer is no. i think we've used 65 and 70 as the most common ages to talk about older drivers. i think 65 because that's when traditionally social security started. i don't think there's any biologic or physiologic reason that we decided to use 65 and above. we can use 70 and above. i think that those u-shaped curves for crash involvement you can make a case for 70 above. you could probably also make a case for 75 and above. but there is no right answer to that. >> i have a number of questions and so if you want to jump in. doc dÜrer rosenbloom and dobbs, i was interested in a segment to all raised. i was intrigued by your chart that showed how people felt selected, who self-select and that women tend to stop dr

ms. mccartt said about we're not going to be the same seniors that our parents were, and things are changing. is there any agreed upon age at which we would say someone is an older driver? this goes back to 70 for the new 60, what is an older driver and do we have the definition? dr. del enter, old buddy. >> the short answer is no. 60 and 70 are the most common ages. i think 65 because that is when traditionally social security started. i don't think there is any biological or physiological reason we decided to use 65 and above. we can use 70 and above. i think that the view-shaped curve for crash involvement, you can make a case for 70 and above. you can also make a case for 75 and above. but there is no right answer to that. >> i have a number of questions. if you want to jump then -- rosenblum, an intersection of some issues that you raise. i was intrigued by your chart that showed how people self select and that women tend to stop driving before they really should or could. also by the statistic that you used that women outlive their driving ability by 10 years and then by six. how does