ms. mcclintock. no, ms. bass is next in line. >> oh. okay, there you go. thank you for your testimony this morning. earlier when we opened, i believe the chair mentioned the need for the president to present solutions instead of just criticizing. i just wanted to mention that yesterday the president sent his start-up america legislative agenda to accelerate start-up and small business growth to congress. parts of the agenda have already won bipartisan support in the house, including allowing small business to businesses to raise capital, raise taxes on capital gains and key investments and small businesses. i think this is an example of the types of economic stimulus we should be pursuing. and i'm hoping that my colleagues on the other side of the aisle will bring the president's package to the house floor for a vote soon. i did want to ask you about states and the fiscal pressure on states, which i do see as a major obstacle to sustainable recovery. at the start of 2012, 29 states have already projected a gap of about $44 billion for fiscal year 2013. and

ms. woolsey, mr. mcclintock talk about the war in afghanistan and it reminds me this morning about the -- about 8:00, i did a call-in show in my district, jacksonville, north carolina, the home of camp lejeune marine base. the topic of the call-in show was proposed budget cuts to our military. and the emcee of the show, the host, said to me, he said, you know, i'm coming around to your thinking. it's time to get out of after depan stan. -- out of afghanistan. we're spending $10 billion a month in afghanistan. let's say we start bringing them home this year new york 2012, at least start the process of bringing them home and the host said, well, i guess if we did that, we would save at least, probably, $240 billion in a two-year period of time. so if they're proposing cuts of $490 billion in next year's budget for the department of defense and we save $240 billion, then we're almost cutting in half what we're going to require of the military. i said, you're exactly right. not only do i hear this from a talk show h