ms. mclaughlin. she wants to help her students. >> how did watching that video of ms. mclaughlin make you feel? >> it upset me. >> why? >> it upset me because -- to know what the students were saying in the video was a completely different experience than i had with her class. >> do you remember what she said specifically about you? >> i wasn't the best teacher but i wasn't the worst. said that i never assigned homework, we never read any >> true? >> that is absolutely not true. >> we caught up with mc [ laughter ] lin who was out of town and agreed to a skype interview. she says a teacher's value can't be measured by one student's impression at one particular moment in time. >> the thing i have to hold onto is that the product we produce in schools is so unlike any other product. it isn't always visible from start to fish. it takes a long time osee growth. >> i think this judge just did a huge education. what happens in court is sort of the least of our problem. if they've created an atmosphere where we continue to be demonized, i think they have achieved what they wan