ms. meeker? >> thank you. just a comment on a national dialogue. not sure if i would go so far as to say we need a policy. but in terms of a national dialogue, two key areas where i think we could use additional coordination and public education was one of those as mentioned. as we further technologies it's very difficult to explain some of those technologies to the public. and they need to understand them in order to support their governmental entities and utilities moving forward with those technologies. so that's the first. >> give me an example of what you're talking about. >> he just talked about wastewater, creating -- you can do that whole wastewater, treat it to the point where it's actually drinkable. there are -- that's the two extremes. we have many areas in between. and without that public education and public involvement an understanding treatment technologies, getting them to understand those issues is very difficult. so that's an area i think where our federal agencies could really