ms. mitchell: how you win the war of ideas? i've covered the state department and watched democratic and republican administrations, secretaries of state, of all descriptions unable to use our public diplomacy in a truly effective way against this kind of propaganda. isis is so much more adept at social media than anything we have able unable to do -- then able to do. rep. mccaul: we have a new generation of terrorists that are very effective on the internet that have radicalized enough people to recruit 40,000 jihadists into iraq and syria, the largest convergence in history. now they do the external operations, same with northern africa. we have to counter that message. some private companies, google, facebook, they are stepping up to the plate to counter the message. i think the united states government could do a more effective job leveraging the local communities. at the end of the day, these are sunni arab communities, they need to step up to the plate and protect their own backyard and protect their own religion. it's im