ms. morgan, thank you so much for your time tonight. >> thank you john. >> john: what a pleasure. can you just tell us a little bit about yours and charlie's story and how you wound up in this fight against doma? >> yes charlie and i have been together for 16 years. we had a civil union for ten years and after the repeal of don't ask, don't tell, we got married because it was safe to do so. she could no longer lose her job because of being gay in the military. and our family depended on her income for our livelihood. we've always been strong fighters for what we felt was right. and we just felt like this was an inequity that needed to be addressed. a lot of people didn't know the stories of gay families in the military. they didn't even realize that they were there. >> john: how long was she in iraq? >> she was in kuwait and she was there for a year. she was deployed to kuwait and she did go to iraq but her main base was there. >> john: okay. so karen, what benefits would you be entitled to today had you been in a heterosexual marriage? >> i would be entitled to any survivorship b