ms. newkirk for serving on our book committee. please join me in welcoming ms. gilliam and ms. newkirk. [applause] >> thank you, and thank you all for being here. this is a great honor for me to sit down with this legendary journalist who i've known my entire career, known of, but i've never had the opportunity to have a conversation with you with. i told her, i would see her at conferences, but she was dorothy gilliam and i was not -- [laughter] and so i looked on with awe and just great respect. >> well, it's -- >> and admiration. >> it's a great pleasure to be here in conversation with you. >> yes. >> i've enjoyed your work very much. >> thank you. and thank you for writing this book. this book not only chronicles your remarkable career, but some of the, you know, really momentous events in u.s. history. you were there for so much of that time. and what i was particularly struck by, my first book looked at the entry of african-americans into mainstream journalism, but most of them came after the urban unrest that began, like, in 1965,1967, the riots that resulted in the commission on