ms. novak: registered as a federal lobbyist. mr. auble: if they wanted to bring you in, you could get a waiver which is something that becomes public of course. ms. novak: there were some. clearlythat pretty there were not as many lobbyists that went into the obama as has goneon s -- into other administrations but there were exceptions made. mr. adams: ok. let us go back there and then over to there. >> could you give us a sense of where lobbying and influence laws are strong and where they are weak and the ramifications environments. are they strong at the sec for example an week elsewhere -- and weak elsewhere? what comes to mind? mr. auble: in general, the disclosure laws are relatively strong and in many cases, they are self reporting. the registration loopholes we talked about and those kinds of definitions where things very, i am not with therly familiar agencies that have much stronger rules or any that are really lacking. ms. novak: the rules are the rules and they are up -- and they ap