ms. pelosi: not exactly. jonathan: [laughter] ms. pelosi: it is true i had other plans for dinner, like a hot dog at home. jonathan: [laughter] ms. pelosi: [laughter] i told him on a number of occasions to prepare for defeat. we all love to have more italian americans as democrats. our commonality of interest, shared values, it was not that we were sharing values with people, we have people who were true to their constituents, representative of their district. let's talk about kamala harris. we are going forward. jonathan: speaking of the house, say hello to him. ms. pelosi: hi, dan. jonathan: one of those retirees. ms. pelosi: i was in michigan last wednesday at the invitation of the governor. the spirit was high. i was with him yesterday to honor him in the michigan delegation for his service. this has been a remarkable person. he came to congress well known because of his uncle, who had been a member for many years. a really aggressive, wonderful democrat. when dan came, right from day 1, with all the respect and his name, he was e

ms. pelosi would you give me the money to build the wall and i will give you daca? ms. pelosi never answered. she just went on vacation. host: i'm running short on time. what is your other point you want to make quickly? caller: the other is i think they call it the r2 from the house. speaker johnson said that they had a very comprehensive bill about the border he sent to chuck schumer and schumer just sat on it for a year. host: that is alicia in maryland. guest: hr2 was really popular with republicans and not so with democrats and never really got any traction on the senate side. it did on the house side, on the senate side it never got a vote because democrats were opposed. it was a wish list of enforcement measures that went beyond where democrats were willing to go and it did not have anything about expanding legal immigration which a lot of republicans would like to see in the senate as well. i think there been mistakes made on both sides politically. democrats have overplayed their hands, republicans have overplayed their hands. if you want me to be an all-purpose

it is not clear when they will speak again, a painful reality that ms pelosi admits keeps her up at night. do you know if they've spoken do you know what can you say about that relationship? >> i don't know if they've spoken, but look, they've served together. they've been friend and literally for decades. and so all of us have been through hard moments are hard decisions in our lives. initially, it may be tough, but you've come around and i've spoken to our president repeatedly over the last couple of weeks. he's looking forward when i last spoke to him, he was excited about the cancer moonshot event that he was about to do this coming week, he was excited to campaign with kamala harris. at the end of the day, he knows this was for the best. and what he's going to share with us on the stage tomorrow night is just how proud he is of what he and kamala harris got done pulling us out of the depths of the pandemic, moving is forward from january 6 rebuilding our country. he's got a stronger record as a one-term president than most two-term presidents. and that's something i think he can and