perry: do you discuss cost or reimbursement at all in your report? ms. hoffman: so part of the request is to look at policy implications and the cost and financing of that. we are going to work within the department of energy with our energy policy and systems analysis group and assess what are some of the financial implications to setting up and developing a transformer reserve. mr. perry: all right. thank you. in my opinion, the epa continues to overregulate the energy industry and with that, i don't think they have the ability to determine or examine the requirements. mr. fugate, i'm sure you're aware based on what i have based on december 2015, retiring due to epa policy retiring or converting 81,423 megawatts or 499 units based on regulation. has fema done an examination of how the epa regulations affect the grid and capacity? are you interested in doing that? do you know the capacity and the ramifications of the loss of the 499 units and the 81,000-plus megawatts? ms. hoffman: -- mr. fugate: to be honest, congressman, we depend upon our partners in