ms. pierson got what she deserved.in, the actual intrusion may not have been her fault but her failure to report what really happened is right on her shoulders. we he cannot have that here. talking points has said numerous times that the obama administration is not governing the country properly. there are problems everywhere. few of them are being addressed in an effective way. perhaps the best example of this attorney general eric holder who announced his resignation just last week. mr. holder has never explained the fast and furious scandal, how it happened. and now the federal courts are ordering him to turn over documents he should have released months ago. mr. holder is even being held in contempt by congress. yet, the attorney general kept his job because president obama likes him. what's forgotten here by the media and by the politicians is that public servants are supposed to it serve we the people. and when they don't do the job like ms. pierson, they should resign. we need effective problem solvers not spinn

ms. pierson to resign? >> director pierson offered her resignation and i accepted it. #. >> you called her into your office? >> it was a face-to-face meeting, but, you know, brett, i -- yesterday was the day after she resigned. yesterday was the first day that we begin to transform and reform this agency, and so i'm focused on what we need to do to rebuild the trust and confidence. >> when did you know about the atlanta incident, the contractor with the gun on the elevator? >> the media tends to focus on who, what, where, when, i'm know kw focused on what we need to do to ask the hard questions. >> ask that the final straw? in the morning, josh ernest said the president had full confidence in ms. pierson and then in the afternoon -- >> julie, who like a lot, was a dedicated public servant. came to me and offered her resignation, given where the secret service is right now and given the hard questions we need to ask, i accepted the resignation, so we move forward from here. >> she also pointed out that dhs a

ms. pierson gave this bumbling and bureaucrat speak testimony that satisfied no one. that afternoon you had the head of centers for disease control -- >> here we go. josh earnest. let's take a listen. >> it's been a busy day for us here at the administration. i suspect that many of you have seen the statement from the secretary of homeland security jeh johnson. in that statement he noted that he had accepted this afternoon the resignation of julia pierson, director of the united states secret service. let me just tell you this president had an opportunity to telephone director pierson to express his appreciation for her service to the agency and to the country. she dedicated more than 30 years of her life to the united states secret service and to the important work that they do over there. as i mentioned yesterday, she spent several hours in front of the cameras yesterday answering difficult questions from members of congress. in the context of that interaction, she took responsibility for the shortcomings of the agency that she led and she took responsibility for fi

ms. pierson had undergone a grilling by both republicans and democrats at capitol hill. she said she was outraged as well. nanny pelosi, chuck schumer, elijah cummings, who led the hearing yesterday, and the hearing where julia was excoriated and raked over the coals. just after president obama thank her for her service. >> she offered her resignation because she pleased it was in the best interest of the agency to which she has dedicated her career. the secretary agreed with that assessment. the president did as well. over the last several days we've seen recent and accumulating reports raising questions about the performance of the agency, and the president concluded that new leadership of that agency was required. >> recent and accumulating reports. three days apart. october 16th in atlanta when a contractor around the president's visit to the center of decease control to talk about ebola, got on an elevator, an individual with three prior convictions, found to have a gun after he acted erratically. it was just divulged by earnest in the briefing that the white house

ms. pierson needs to go? >> yeah, unfortunately, megyn, i think she does. it's not just her. there's a small group and cabal of managers that have been there for a long time that, frankly -- and i'm sorry to say this -- have decimated the agency. morale is terrible. i don't know if they're preparing for their second careers, trying to butter up to the white house staff, but they have destroyed morale of the men and women of the secret service that call me and speak to me, megyn, are just infuriated and enraged at the lack of leadership, the lack of ability to stand up to the white house staff and take this agency to a better tomorrow. they need to fix this. >> what specifically have they done? why is the morale so low. >> they don't feel the people in the upper management are making the proper decisions and defending them when it comes to the friction battles that happen constantly -- books have been written about it -- with the secret service aelgts on the ground, the rank and file and the staff. >> how can they miss that? these two cases how do you blame that on bureaucracy

ms. pierson has been completely transparent with us. >> is her job on the line? >> 9 director of the secret service said this -- >> this is unacceptable. and i take full responsibility. >> she then went on to defensively make excuses for every terrible display of utter incompetence the secret service has given us in their protection of the white house and the first family. she tried to give defensive speeches instead of answers to very simple questions. >> your agency previously had reported an indictment against mr. gonzalez, asserted that he was arrested in that entry area. isn't it true that he actually penetrated the cross hall, the east room, and, in fact, was arrested in the vicinity of the green room. >> referring to your map on the wall, as i have been briefed, mr. gonzalez entered the front double doors. >> ma'am, i want a short answer. i have very little time. >> that was the day that i agreed with darrell issa. that's not the darrel issa i have seen in other hearings. that was darrel issa being perfectly reasonable today and final bly losing patience w

ms. pierson needs to go? >> yeah, unfortunately, megyn, i think she does. it's not just her.re's a small group and cabal of managers that have been there for a long time that, frankly -- and i'm sorry to say this -- have decimated the agency. morale is terrible. i don't know if they're preparing for their second careers, trying to butter up to the white house staff, but they have destroyed morale of the men and women of the secret service that call me and speak to me, megyn, are just infuriated and enraged at the lack of leadership, the lack of ability to stand up to the white house staff and take this agency to a better tomorrow. they need to fix this. >> what specifically have they done? why is the morale so low. >> they don't feel the people in the upper management are making the proper decisions and defending them when it comes to the friction battles that happen constantly -- books have been written about it -- with the secret service aelgts on the ground, the rank and file and the staff. >> how can they miss that? these two cases how do you blame that on bureaucracy? >>

ms. pierson, the director, can make the kinds of changes that she said she wants to make if she can't evenet proper information from her own people. and that's a problem. so she's got -- what i've said is that if she cannot restore this trust among her agents, if she cannot put them in a position where they feel comfortable in telling her and her higher-ups things that are going wrong with the agency or problems with various investigations and whatever and if she cannot address the issue at the same time of training and protocol and at the same time keep the president safe, i think she should go and i think she would agree with me because i believe that she has served faithfully our country for 30 years. i think she's given a lot. but i also believe that her number one priority is the protection of the president of the united states of america and his family and the other people that the secret service is duty-bound to protect. >> yeah, that's absolutely true. what's worse in your opinion? i know you've studied it closely. what's worse, some guy jumps over the fence, not only gets into the

ms. pierson will be working at burger king next week. she is done.of discussion at a white house briefing. roll the tape. >> security contractor at the cdc in the elevator who was armed in the presence of the president in violation of secret service protocols did director pierson brief the president on that incident? >> can i tell you that the white house first learned of that incident yesterday afternoon shortly before it was reported by -- before it was publicly reported by news organization. >> so he just backs up what you say that. >> so the incident was bad enough but the fact that she wasn't upfront about it with the president. >> of course. >> i'm told the white house's story is what changed here in terms of the confidence is that she offered her resignation. i'm told by secret service insider she was brought in by the director, the secretary of homeland security and said give us your resignation. you are done today. that's what happened. >> and now she is going to go on vacation with sebelius. they are going to go down to the same parts. you

ms. pierson has been with the secret service for a very long time, how could an insider change the culture when she's probably part of the problem. >> oh the culture is a huge problem but the culture isn't the only problem. i'm not convinced for example that if there had been multiple fence jumpers at one time, and that's what we ought to fear now particularly with isil having what appear to be americans who are going over there with american passports, i fear five or six jumping the fence and don't have any confidence after the hearing that we have a secret service that is equipped to stop them. i think we have an old time secret service, the culture is one part of it, we've had no outside investigation, that's what we need first, the change of the guard at the top won't change the culture either. we probably do need some cleansing of the agency, but we don't even have an outside investigation to tell us top to bottom what went wrong and what should happen. >> here's the thing, though, america is at war with isis. this is a dangerous time for the president of the united states. doesn't an

ms. pierson said the responsibility ultimately was hers. >>> now, millions of indians are picking up their buckets and brooms in a nationwide campaign to clean streets and public spaces, because the prime minister narendra modi has personally laumpnched his five-year india drive. he's pledged to build toilets first, temples later, during his may election campaign. speaking to residents at a campaign event, he urged everyone to do their bit to help. it all comes on the day of the anniversary of gandhi's birthday, and he, of course, championed hygiene. cleanliness is next to godliness. and the prime minister narendra modi is asking everyone to get out there for two hours a week and clean up the streets, saying by 2019, india could finally be a much cleaner country. it is much-needed. we will see whether that campaign actually works. much more, of course, on the website and everything, and i am back in about five minutes. so do join me then. i'm geeta guru-murthy. you're watching "bbc world news." [ male announcer ] tomcat bait kills up to 12 mice, faster than d-con. what will we do with all

ms. pierson a break.this issue of putting the fence line in front, or at least a police barrier, and looking at this area -- we are trying to make ourselves appear better as we are working on it. say, this that is to president and his family deserve to be protected. it is concerning to me they were not told about the shooting until many days later. that is just mind-boggling to me. especially when their daughter was actually in the residence that night. >> i do have a question. explain to me, is putting the fence you are the only fix? help me outcome is there a better way to go about this? my perspective, protecting u.s. embassies around the world, it is a concentric ring of security. layers of security. the fence typically is one of the last things. typically, fences are meant to keep good people out. bad people find ways over fences. you can't simply rely on the fence as a last resort. >> i think the issue that has come as we go forward here is the protection, of this world icon. in the threat environme

it is kind of a bad time to have something like this happen, pierson? ms >> it is never acceptable to have somebody preach the white house. whatuld you explain to me you have done since becoming the new director of the secret service to turn this agency around and prevent things like this from happening? >> from the start of my appointment, i have made it perfectly clear to the workforce my expectations for professionalism and accountability. how that was accomplished by the establishment of a new office of integrity, the establishment of new penalties for a discipline ross that is more transparent and consistent -- process that more transparent and consistent. i have a zero-tolerance level when it comes to misconduct. in addition, trying to develop leaders is critically important. here we have established a log in-service training for the workforce. it is specialized training for our leadership. i have had personal engagement with supervisors and the workforce. when i became director i had supervisoryessional positions that were vacant. i made those promo

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ms. pierson a break. this issue of putting the fence line in front, or at least a police barrier, and looking at this area -- we are trying to make ourselves appear better as we are working on it. say, this that is to president and his family deserve to be protected. it is concerning to me they were not told about the shooting until many days later. that is just mind-boggling to me. especially when their daughter was actually in the residence that night. >> i do have a question. explain to me, is putting the fence you are the only fix? help me outcome is there a better way to go about this? my perspective, protecting u.s. embassies around the world, it is a concentric ring of security. layers of security. the fence typically is one of the last things. typically, fences are meant to keep good people out. bad people find ways over fences. you can't simply rely on the fence as a last resort. >> i think the issue that has come as we go forward here is the protection, of this world icon. in the threat environm

ms. pierson's congressional hearing earlier this week. great source for understanding this situation. ning us. >> good to be here. >> you defended julia pierson at the hearing. i want to ask you, why don't you think that the slow to deceptive responses to the last fence-jumping breach and the armed contractor, the security guard in the elevator, why don't you think that those justified a change at the top? >> first of all, in my testimony i did defend the director, but i also was defending the incredible job that the secret service agents, the men and women who are tasked with this incredibly difficult mission do on a daily basis, there is no denying. the events of september 19th at the white house. and the issue with at the cdc in lant. clearly unacceptable breaches. and the security of the president. and the white house. and i think what is important now is that we have to move on. we have to understand what happened on september the 19th. why were the decisions made or not made. and you have to dig down into that. and understand that. and fix those problems. get, understanding what

ms. julia pierson and her tenure resignation does not resolve them. yesterday the committee called for an outside review and today they agreed that a review is critical. now, we are marked by a meeting of president netanyahu and president obama today at the white house. >> is everyone here? okay, once again come i would like to welcome benjamin netanyahu. he's no stranger to the white house, he spent him more than any world leader as his tenure as president. we meet at a challenging time. israel was obviously in a very turbulent neighborhood and this gives us the ability to reaffirm the unbreakable bond between the united states and israel and our ironclad commitment to making sure that israel is secure. nope, throughout the summer we e all deeply concerned about the situation in gossett and we should be proud of the contributions that we made to the iron dome program to protect the lives of israelis at a time when rockets are pouring into israel on a regular basis. i think that we also recognize that we have to find ways to change the status quo so t